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well today boys was my first field trail that i have ever attended. i had a very good time and my dog got a 2nd in the champion class out of 15 dog. i won my cast and there was 3 cast of 5 dogs. we went to the championship class and me and another dog tied. the judge said that he like the way the other hound HUNTED A LITTLE BIT BETTER but it was close". So he gave the win to the other feller that he knew. i sign the card and didnt know any different because im new to this and everyone else was very helpful. if you have attended as many field trail as this feller had and you are a judge you should know that in the champion final cast and 2 dogs tie you go to a 15 minute run off. if you pass the test you should know this. i know we are all human and we make mistakes but the man who won should have stood up and said something. we all know what fair and unfair but you make you choice. thank you guys in advance for the feedback.......... im not b*%$#hin but i dont like gettin it without any vasoline. Thanks

i thought we settled this at the club house the guy judging admitted to you that he made a mistake,a honest mistake everybody in the cast signed the score card so that means everybody agreed with the judges decsion.if you wouldnt have signed the card and brought it back to the master of hounds then it could have been fixed.

yea i didnt know any different hell this was all new to me and didnt know... i was just wantin to tell how a good ole home cookin works. i guess this is the first time in trailing that any two dogs have tied. but hell what do i know

who was your judge on the first cast ?

not quite for sure who the one guy was but he was very good and he had a helper as well. wasnt the first that we had problem with. all the dog looked terrible but i just had a couple checks is all.

man why do you want to get on here and cause trouble......look he made an honest mistake....looks like to me if u are new at this you would have read the rule book to learn about little pack...you should have known to protest...looks like it is just as much you fault as his

im not causin trouble for one so get your crap straight. im just not happy i drove over 200 mile trip to get a second when i could have have a first place if it was done right. im not in the wrong here so quit tryin to suck someones ass and just look at it from my point of view. im a hunter not a judges.......... i dont get paid to hunt.............. i pay to hunt so i feel as if i deserve a fair hunt and choice!!! i have my opinion and you have yours so there it is!!!

I hate to see someone get on here and be a cry .
Be a man and settle it at the hunt !!!!! Instead of getting on a computer and running your mouth.
You are what is wrong with trials today cry babbies.
If you get a bad deal be mad at your self for not knowing the rules.
Sounds like the club tried to explain this to you and then you get on here and bad mouth them.
Quit crying and start judging see how many mistakes you make
No i wasnt there or have i ever been to this club i just hate people crying!!

Shannon Howard

[quote="Willow Creek Kennels"]I hate to see someone get on here and be a cry .
Be a man and settle it at the hunt !!!!! Instead of getting on a computer and running your mouth.
You are what is wrong with trials today cry babbies.
If you get a bad deal be mad at your self for not knowing the rules.
Sounds like the club tried to explain this to you and then you get on here and bad mouth them.
Quit crying and start judging see how many mistakes you make
No i wasnt there or have i ever been to this club i just hate people crying!!

Shannon Howard[/quote]

exactly.....im not trying to start anything....but this was settled at the clubhouse.....like willow creek said put yourself in the judges shoes

modock
read your rule book.then you will know the rules and next time someone makes a mistake you will know what to do about it.keep going to hunts and get your judges lic.and start judging then you will see for your self that judges make mistakes.your judge you had today that made the mistake is as honest is the days is long he isnt going to cheat for nobody.i hope you come back to the next hunt we have.

i tell you what i am far from a crybaby. i just dont like gettin up the rear when that not how its suppose to be. you were new once or are you one of the who just like to run there mouth.... anyways there is nothin i can do now this was never to be an arguement but turned that way.......... i was just wonder what you all would do... but shannon if you would like to come to indiana and run i would be more than glad to take you on a little rabbit hunt buddy......... thank you

WELL BOYS, IM NOT GOING TO STOOP TO THIS LEVEL. NOT GOING TO GET ON HERE AND ARGUE. I JUDGED THE FINAL. I MADE A MISTAKE. I DIDNT GO INTO OVERTIME FOR 15 MINUTES. I PICKED ON HUNT AND HANDLING. AND YES, THAT DOG DESERVED IT. I WOULD NEVER CHEAT ANYBODY INTENTIONALLY. NOT FOR A MILLION DOLLARS. YOU SHOOK MY HAND AND ACTED LIKE EVERYTHING WAS OK, AND THAT YOU UNDERSTOOD I WAS HUMAN. FORGIVE ME FOR NOT BEING A PERFECT JUDGE. WHY TRY AND GET ON HERE AND RUN OUR CLUB DOWN, AND RUIN MY NAME.
EVERY CAST IVE JUDGED I DO TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.

MY PHONE NUMBER IS 270-469-0331. ANY BODY WANT TO BE AN ADULT AND TALK ABOUT THIS, GIVE ME A CALL.

the moh's could have made them go back out and run the 15 minutes.it doesn't matter that everyone signed the card.the rule states that there should have been 15 minutes overtime,so there was a rule vilation.not trying to step on toes or take sides.i've seen this happen before and go both way's.if the score card was brought back and the moh's saw that there was no plus points and that they didn't go in overtime he could have made them run the 15 minutes.

We did have plus points.

Hey Bill, dont you worry bout it bud. i know and everybody else who has ever seen you judge knows how straight you are. These MORONS wanna shake a persons hand and laugh and say its no big deal to your face and then behind the safety of a computer run ya down. Comin from a fellow judge, its real easy to stand back and say what shoulda been done when you aint judgin. But when your in there chasing them dogs and trying your best to remember all you have to remember its a lot more than people think. Just to let you know there modock kennels, if this is your first hunt your not gettin off to a good start. This is a good way to make a lot of enemies quick. You'd be better off to keep your mouth shut about stuff you know nothing about!!!!!!!!!