who promotes the best all around RABBIT DAWG?????

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wich format promotes the best all around true RABBIT DAWG??????

akc midwest spo
105
35%
akc large pack
14
5%
arha little pack
78
26%
arha progressive pack
67
22%
ukc hunting and hound
21
7%
ukc performance
18
6%
 
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rabbit dogs are pormoted by HUNTERS HUNTING WITH GUNDOGS...the dogs that consistantly bring the rabbit back to the gun as fast and efficiently as possible ..that is a rabbit dog...trials are just a way to show off wht ya got..formats i have a few hounds that have won and placed in akc ukc and nkc..that is what a true rabbit dog should be able to do..but regardless of wht format you are running there are always gonna be judges who dont like your dog or you or something ...also gonna be judges pushing for a buddies dog and there are gonna be guys that run 14 inch hounds in the 13 inch class and 16 inch hounds in the 15...a true hound should be able to compete against both classes regardless if it is 13 or 16 inches....i dont go to alot of trials anymore mainly just the big hunts...the biggest reason i go to these hunts is to hang out with old buddies meet new ones and listen to some good races and have a few bullets..when i quit caring about getting the screws put to me is when i started having the most fun..i enjoy visiting and shooting the bull and having a few beers with my buddies and if my hound happens to make it through all the polotics of trialing then that is great too...just my opinion guys..tracy skiles
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dogwhisperer wrote:
rock crusher wrote:.Then you run the lp hunts and some of the judgeing just sucks.I wish we had two judges with no affilation with any of the owners,handlers or dogs.
my question is this how could you run a hunt with 2 judges??? You figure if you only had 5 casts of dogs right theres 5 hours not counting travel time to and from spots.Also where could you find judges that know anything about judging when they are not affilated with owners handlers or dogs.Just dont see how its possible..Eventually one of those judges will be affilated with someone or a dog.. just a question.....???????
Meant 2 judges per cast sorry for the misunderstanding would like 3 per cast,but i know they are hard to find.Far as judges being affilated i believe all things are possible. I know and i'm sure you've seen favortism in some hunts.What does this kind of thing happen? Just a question?What format do you run? Looks like you have some good dogs :D

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I just dont see where lp promotes the best dog when it is an any thing goes as far as getting to the front. I run lp and I hear guys saying they wished there dog would swing a lot more to get more checks. But in pp or akc midwest that is the dog that is picked up quickly.
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I think each one can be picked apart if you really want to. I run LP ARAH and I have been to a few SPO trials. personaly I don't care if my dog is is the front all the time I just want them to get the job done right I have some that will reach a little and I have some that are very close working, when I run them together it seems to bring out the best in each hound. The question is who promotes the best rabbit dog? I think it depends on each person I have seen dogs that I didn't like that were FC, R CH, UKC CH, but each has there own style they like if everyone liked the same than this wouldn't even be a question. I just like to cut them loose and let them do what they were born to do. Make so beautiful music to my ears :nod:
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Joe Crace wrote:I think each one can be picked apart if you really want to. I run LP ARAH and I have been to a few SPO trials. personaly I don't care if my dog is is the front all the time I just want them to get the job done right I have some that will reach a little and I have some that are very close working, when I run them together it seems to bring out the best in each hound. The question is who promotes the best rabbit dog? I think it depends on each person I have seen dogs that I didn't like that were FC, R CH, UKC CH, but each has there own style they like if everyone liked the same than this wouldn't even be a question. I just like to cut them loose and let them do what they were born to do. Make so beautiful music to my ears :nod:



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I UNDERSTAND WHAT DANNY WAS ASKING IN HIS ORIGINAL POST BUT A GOOD RABBIT DOGS IS DIFFERENT IN EVERY ONES MIND. BE IT A RUFF CUTTING SWINGING DOG THAT DOES WHAT EVER IT HAS TO TO BE IN THE FRONT TO A SLOWER UBGF STYLE DOG IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE PERSON WHO OWNS IT PERFERS. I HAVE SEEN DOGS IN A FEW DIFFERENT FORMATS THAT HAVE FINISHED AND THAT HAVE PLACED IN SOME BIG HUNTS THAT FRANKLY I WOULD NOT OWN AND I HAVE SEEN SOME THAT HARDLY PLACED IN A TRIAL THAT I REALLY LIKED HOW THEY RAN. I HAVENT BEEN RUNNING MUCH HER IN THE LAST FEW YEARS PUTTING DOWN TWO DOGS THAT WERE REALLY SPECIAL TO ME ABOUT PUT ME OUT OF IT. ONE WAS TO TIGHT MOUTHED IN A TRIAL TO THE POINT OTHER DOGS WOULD COME IN BEHIND HIM AND TAKE THE POINTS BY OPENING FIRST, BUT AS A RABBIT DOG HE WAS AWESOME ALL DAY HUNT, NEVER RAN TRASH, HANDLED LIKE A BABY, AND WOULD RETRIVE. I PUT HIM IN A FEW TRIALS AND HE NEVER PLACED OR DIDNT MAKE IT TO THE FINAL CUT SO HE WASNT REALLY A FEILD TRIAL DOG .HE WAS MY BUDDY AND GOT THE JOB DONE IN THE FEILD . I HAVE BEEN TO UKC HUNTS, PROGRESSIVE PACK HUNTS, LITTLE PACK HUNTS, AKC MIDWEST HUNTS THEY ALL HAVE THERE GOOD POINTS AND THERE BAD. THE TWO I LIKE THE BEST IS AKC MIDWEST AND PROGRESSIVE PACK EVEN THOUGH I DONT RUN PROGRESSIVE PACK. BUT I LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY ARE SHOT OVER THEM. WHAT IS THE POINT OF HAVING A GOOD DOG IF HE IS GUN SHY. I DONT LIKE THE FACT THAT AKC GIVES YOU TIME TO CATCH YOUR DOG OFF DEER ,BUT I DIDNT MAKE THE RULES I JUST GO BY THEM. AS FAR AS LITTLE PACK I SEE ALOT OF DOGS THAT RUN IN IT THAT ARE WAY TO RUFF RUNNING FOR MY TASTE, BUT I DONT FEED THEM . BUT IT IS MY CHOICE NOT TO BRED TO THEM IF I DONT LIKE THEM THAT IS TH MAIN THING TO REMEMBER DONT BREED TO A DOG IF YOU DONT LIKE HOW IT RUNS EVEN IF IT HAS DONE ALOT AT TRIALS YOU BUY THE FEED SO KEEP WHAT YOU LIKE
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grim wrote:I UNDERSTAND WHAT DANNY WAS ASKING IN HIS ORIGINAL POST BUT A GOOD RABBIT DOGS IS DIFFERENT IN EVERY ONES MIND. BE IT A RUFF CUTTING SWINGING DOG THAT DOES WHAT EVER IT HAS TO TO BE IN THE FRONT TO A SLOWER UBGF STYLE DOG IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE PERSON WHO OWNS IT PERFERS. I HAVE SEEN DOGS IN A FEW DIFFERENT FORMATS THAT HAVE FINISHED AND THAT HAVE PLACED IN SOME BIG HUNTS THAT FRANKLY I WOULD NOT OWN AND I HAVE SEEN SOME THAT HARDLY PLACED IN A TRIAL THAT I REALLY LIKED HOW THEY RAN. I HAVENT BEEN RUNNING MUCH HER IN THE LAST FEW YEARS PUTTING DOWN TWO DOGS THAT WERE REALLY SPECIAL TO ME ABOUT PUT ME OUT OF IT. ONE WAS TO TIGHT MOUTHED IN A TRIAL TO THE POINT OTHER DOGS WOULD COME IN BEHIND HIM AND TAKE THE POINTS BY OPENING FIRST, BUT AS A RABBIT DOG HE WAS AWESOME ALL DAY HUNT, NEVER RAN TRASH, HANDLED LIKE A BABY, AND WOULD RETRIVE. I PUT HIM IN A FEW TRIALS AND HE NEVER PLACED OR DIDNT MAKE IT TO THE FINAL CUT SO HE WASNT REALLY A FEILD TRIAL DOG .HE WAS MY BUDDY AND GOT THE JOB DONE IN THE FEILD . I HAVE BEEN TO UKC HUNTS, PROGRESSIVE PACK HUNTS, LITTLE PACK HUNTS, AKC MIDWEST HUNTS THEY ALL HAVE THERE GOOD POINTS AND THERE BAD. THE TWO I LIKE THE BEST IS AKC MIDWEST AND PROGRESSIVE PACK EVEN THOUGH I DONT RUN PROGRESSIVE PACK. BUT I LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY ARE SHOT OVER THEM. WHAT IS THE POINT OF HAVING A GOOD DOG IF HE IS GUN SHY. I DONT LIKE THE FACT THAT AKC GIVES YOU TIME TO CATCH YOUR DOG OFF DEER ,BUT I DIDNT MAKE THE RULES I JUST GO BY THEM. AS FAR AS LITTLE PACK I SEE ALOT OF DOGS THAT RUN IN IT THAT ARE WAY TO RUFF RUNNING FOR MY TASTE, BUT I DONT FEED THEM . BUT IT IS MY CHOICE NOT TO BRED TO THEM IF I DONT LIKE THEM THAT IS TH MAIN THING TO REMEMBER DONT BREED TO A DOG IF YOU DONT LIKE HOW IT RUNS EVEN IF IT HAS DONE ALOT AT TRIALS YOU BUY THE FEED SO KEEP WHAT YOU LIKE
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Hey Josh Wish Joey was a little Tight Mouthed at Times. LOL :bash:
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briarshakersdaddy wrote:Hey Josh Wish Joey was a little Tight Mouthed at Times. LOL :bash:
he cant help it
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Thank you FUZZ for getting on here and putting your post. You know me, I didn't know how much more I could take. You represent AKC Mid-West like a true president. Thank you buddy. Its hard not to get on here and defind what we love. :D


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hubertsoutlaw wrote:Thank you FUZZ for getting on here and putting your post. You know me, I didn't know how much more I could take. You represent AKC Mid-West like a true president. Thank you buddy. Its hard not to get on here and defind what we love. :D


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Why can't we have :angel: :D :cool: :dance: :bozo:
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To much anger these days. People need to find Jesus! Jeremy :D
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I don't know of any of them that promotes the best rabbit dog they promote their trials and if you have a dog that fits then run in that format. I personally am a Rabbit Hunter first and I want a dog to "hunt" and if he don't he don't stay at my house and he must run the rabbit like he is suppose to by himself or with a pack. If you can't take your dog and go to the field and set down on a stump and let him or her find a rabbit and circle it then you don't have a rabbit dog. I don't have the best dogs in the country but they suit me and that is what that matters. It is hard to say some are promoting rabbit dogs when they run trials in pens and never expose dogs to off game. Also I prefer Progressive Pack because to be a champion a dog has to be certified that it can jump its own rabbit and circle it and be shot over to be sure it is not gun shy. But what suits you is what you should run in and have a good time doing it . Remember you buy the feed for your hounds and I don't and I buy the feed for mine and you don't. Hellow Big Dog it is good to hear you comments. Please e-mail me and send me your new address and phone numbers.

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Brice McGlamery wrote:I don't know of any of them that promotes the best rabbit dog they promote their trials and if you have a dog that fits then run in that format. I personally am a Rabbit Hunter first and I want a dog to "hunt" and if he don't he don't stay at my house and he must run the rabbit like he is suppose to by himself or with a pack. If you can't take your dog and go to the field and set down on a stump and let him or her find a rabbit and circle it then you don't have a rabbit dog. I don't have the best dogs in the country but they suit me and that is what that matters. It is hard to say some are promoting rabbit dogs when they run trials in pens and never expose dogs to off game. Also I prefer Progressive Pack because to be a champion a dog has to be certified that it can jump its own rabbit and circle it and be shot over to be sure it is not gun shy. But what suits you is what you should run in and have a good time doing it . Remember you buy the feed for your hounds and I don't and I buy the feed for mine and you don't. Hellow Big Dog it is good to hear you comments. Please e-mail me and send me your new address and phone numbers.

The statement one person made is definitely true "If you can't stand to lose don" go"
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