Home cookin

[J.C. Blair]

Ya know name calling and pretty much calling a man a liar is pretty low from someone who teaches us not to judge others. I have tried to stay out of this, but I am surprised some things like this haven't come to light before this. Preacher I don't personally have a problem with you, but cmon, I can dig up posts in which you were among a lot of others who spoke of buddy judging in your state and other clubs you may have traveled to. Does it go on, YES. But I will say as a whole things are not as bad as it used to be. I have trialed on and off since 95 and have heard the same story about this club, and the story comes from a lot of higher ups and respectable LP people.

I for one can personally vouch for my good friend, Crabtree. I have traveled with him and stayed with him at trials probably more than anyone in the last 4 years and I can never recall the man EVER saying he got cheated. Yes the occasional bad break perhaps, but you can count on the truth coming from him. He's a realist and calls it like it is, no sugar coating. JUST THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. I can say like others, if he got this upset, I will bet the farm he got rooked. I was not there, as you were not there either, I don't think you know Mike like the rest of us, and if you did, you would probably have a different state of mind. Like Puckett said, you got your team and we got our team we will back. I will always have Mike's back, because he's always got mine. He's proved that time and time again.

I cannot think of a time when such bad publicity has been exposed at this level of competition.......Well I'm goin to run puppies.

[wildcatfan0309]

i dont know mike all that well
ive only been in a couple trials with him
and every now and then when hes got a pic of one of his nice pups or
something on here ill comment on it or pm him about it
but in those couple trials ive had him as a judge and our
dogs have drawed out togeather a couple times
and it only took me those couple trials to see that
hes a straight shooter that knows a hound and tells it like it is
even when his dogs makes a mistake
and dont remember him ever complaining on here before
i wasnt there niether but as far as the truth of what happend there, mikes got my vote
and i think ill pick another hunt the day of next years tn. state hunt
these things need to be pointed out
times are to hard for a man to buy a good dog, work his dog into shape, drive all the way
there to support the format he runs and get screwed by his fellow arha brothers
weither it happend at this trial or not it does happen regardless
nothing holds less respect that a bad sportsman
whats the pride in slipping a dog through trials like that
theres some good guys in tennesee but see how it only takes a few guys to make the whole state look bad

[Shady Grove Beagles]

Hey Folks
I'm from Tn. and no I WASN'T at the Tn.State hunt.So please don't paint all of us beaglers in the Volunteer state with the same brush.
Unbelievable! Someone went to a trial and didn't place where they thought they should place.Just as unbelievable they thought they got jobbed by the judge/Master of Hounds and the club.Maybe they did,maybe they didn't.I don't know, I wasn't there.Which is exactly what I'm thinking about all of the posters who are jumping in here to take sides and rally the troops.Probably you weren't there either so???????????
I've met and visited with Mike Crabtree at several hunts.Seemed like a good guy.I've attended and been around the Franklin County Beagle Club in Estill Springs for the past 15 years and know all the guys that regularly attend,judge and make that club run.I would say they are good guys too.
As far as home cooking what can any of us say?When I lived in New Hampshire and ran the Large Pack on Hare trials the scuttlebut was that the judges hounds always won as the 15" guys judged and placed the 13" class judges hounds and the 13" guys judged and placed the 15" judges hounds.It was supposedly a reciprocal aggreement. Did it happen?Maybe.
When I was part of the McMinnville Beagle club there was a group of guys that wouldn't come to that club and bad mouthed it cause they felt we had screwed one of them in the Grand Finals cast .Ted Peercy and I were the judges and WE know we gave it to the right dog.
I know many that wouldn't attend trials at Watertown 's club when Tommy Oliver was president as they felt they couldn't win with him there.I always liked Tommy.
I went to my first Mid-West Beagle Gundog Federation trial a couple of years ago and one of the main topics was how this club and that club had some real problems regarding buddy judging.
I've got two Little Pack Rabbit Champions in my kennel and two others that could probably champion out also but I haven't gone to a trial in a year or more and don't really think about it much.An awful lot of fuss and hassel it seems.
The main thing is for each of us to be true to themselves in how we treat others.It's the only way we can have integrity in the sport.

[weaver240000]

I have met and Judged Crabtree. he is a true bealge guy. And anybody that met him, Im betting 90% of them would vouche he is as good as they come. He is a true dog guy. I remember when I just got into judging I skrewed him on a jump "and looking back on it I did" But with all that I would trust him judging my dogs anytime. Never Been to TN A truly beleive that most of them are honest. But man You here so many bad stories on that place. It s hard not to have that thought about them in your head. If you boys want judged fairly come to Mercer for PA state hunt. Off the top of my head I no that out of staters won the last few years.

[PREACHERS,KENNEL]

j c blair i dont know why u feel the need to attack me , i havent done anything to you.. cheap shots aint my thing dude. i live what i preach and am honest as the day is long . as well if i am wrong or my friends are wrong or family is wrong .. they are just wrong i wont defend them if i know they are wrong. right is right wrong is wrong .. \\

in this case there is simply a difference in opinion. the judge wasa honest man . i never met crabby as yall call him lol. but as many that have took up for him .. i feel he has done alot in the beagle world and made many friends ,that speaks volumes in itself.

i wish him the best ,as well as all of you. i just cant undersatnd why yall feel you must keep draging this out ,,,good lord. even if he was cheated , which i know he wasnt on purpose anyhow. i couldnt keep beating a dead horse . its like yall have a mind derangement or something and cant let go of things lol.. sorry !

[tinymwoods]

This will kill a club faster than no rabbits. Number one is that a very honest and well respected beagler and a friend feels like he was done wrong. I have hunted and trialed with him many times and I believe his word as gold. Anyone that knows him wouldn't dispute that. I seen him loose many hunts and laugh about it (including state hunts). I know many good beaglers from the grand state of Tennessee. They may suck at football , but they have some nice folks and some good hounds. People like Lonnie Turner and Lee Perkins are examples of volunteer beaglers that are of the up most quality. Right or wrong, this will hurt this club tremendously. I will guarantee you if these guys came up to Va they would still get a fair shake, just the type of guy the man done wrong is. We are not going to get this resolved on here, but knowledge is power, and I think people should know how the truth.

[Mapel Valley Kennels LLC.]

I have known the Hills for a hundred years give or take a few. I also know ol Stoney Pretty well.They have Judged me and Like wise.But i also know Crabby Pretty Dog Gone Well.Honestly any of these fellas could Judge me and i would have no Problems.Bad Deal to say the least.

[NeilKimbrel7]

What I like about little pack is you've got a pretty good understanding where you are at at all times in points. Most of us that run a dog and travel to trial know it well. You know when the judges got it right, you know when they've missed a check but made a valiant effort and you can understand that they can't get it all, and then last you know when you've been rooked. When you've made it to the top befor and nothing like this has happened previously I find it no coincidence. I've been trialin for a short time and feel I've got a fair shake most of the time. Even still I know when I've been cheated. Fortunately it's never been in little pack. That being said, someone that's been in this like crabby and have made the accomplishments he has you are naive if you think he doesn't think he has been given bad breaks or been cheated befor, you're acting like this is the first time a judge didn't see it exactly his way....... So what's different this time?? Common sense tells me it was so blatent you couldn't help but let emotions run high. And preacher if you feel like people are poking at you, here's a poke....no one has beat a dead horse as bad as you have on here. You almost double every other poster on here...count them 9! Chad was no more taking a cheap shot at you than you did at crabby in your second post. I've bit my tounge for 3 weeks and I just can't do it anymore. For those of you that are getting into trialing, don't let this fool you. It doesn't happen everywhere. I would like to invite everybody to the north American in neelyville, mo. I unfortunately won't be able to make it, but the Club is ran by good people, can't ask for better people than Paul petty and Chad and amanda Cordell. Judges will be helping from all over the country I'm sure.

[BG BEAGLER]

Well said Neil....great club over there with good people

[Kenny VanHoose]

herumph !

[swamp boy]

Thanks for the kind words guys I am going to get me a tissue now The running has been hammer down here in the bottoms you can ask crabby about that

[toldyouso]

The only thing i will say about swampboy is what a man. Do not play cards with him because he cannot be beat. Looks like jeff hayes and myself and mr. blair will be making the trip. Could be interesting to say the least.

[J.C. Blair]

The only thing i will say about swampboy is what a man. Do not play cards with him because he cannot be beat. Looks like jeff hayes and myself and mr. blair will be making the trip. Could be interesting to say the least.

Swampboy is a bad bad man!!! Frank, I have been told by Jeff that he will travel with me before. So until I see you guys pull in my driveway friday afternoon, I will believe it when I see it! lol

[toldyouso]

I 100 percent agree with you but if jeff does not go or even if he does mike weaver is looking to tag along with someone so unless there is a blizzard i am in. I call dims on you mr. blair but could be mrs. miller after this trip.lol beer beer beer

[J.C. Blair]

I 100 percent agree with you but if jeff does not go or even if he does mike weaver is looking to tag along with someone so unless there is a blizzard i am in. I call dims on you mr. blair but could be mrs. miller after this trip.lol beer beer beer

After my 3 days without sleep performance at the world hunt last year, you'd think I would have learned better. Remember, you were the one tellin' everyone not to go anywhere in that white chevy as the devil was in there. hope you can make it frank "internet beagler" miller