UR OPINION? UKC HUNT DISPUTE

erik_herndon · Post by **erik_herndon** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:48 pm

OKAY...I WAS AT A UKC HUNT A FEW MONTHS AGO....AND THE JUDGES DOG STRIKED IN...HE HAD ABOUT 10 SECS LEFT IN HIS CHECK BEFORE HE HAD TO MINUS HIS STRIKE....AND A STRAY DOG POPS UP ABOUT 50YDS FROM HIS DOG AND IMMEDIATLY CALLS INTERFERANCE...AND CRICLES HIS STRIKE POINT...DID HE DO THE RIGHT THING OR DID HE TEAR ME A NEW ONE?

mike crabtree · Post by **mike crabtree** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:14 pm

Its OK that is how it is done. I had a guy judging me at the McVay hunt, his dog was on the clock with very little time left, he called interference because of a road, but the dogs were headed toward us.He still got beat, he couldnt win with the pencil alone.

Big Mike · Post by **Big Mike** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:03 am

It's called CYA , or in this case CYD (cover your dog). choose the one that applies.

tommyg · Post by **tommyg** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:05 pm

The dog has to interfear with the cast before you call it,and it should have gone to a vote anyway.

tinymwoods · Post by **tinymwoods** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:06 pm

It has been my view, that if you wanna win more often in UKC......be a judge. That is the problem with a hunting judge. Seen alot of odd

calls during hunts that affects the outcome if the hunt. Like Big Mike said, CYDA if you can is the way it goes!

Chief Long Hair · Post by **Chief Long Hair** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:13 am

Quit UKC's Hound and Hunter format if that bothers you. I saw too much of this in 4 years of running that format. It almost made me quit the sport all together and start bashing trialing. What helped me was changing to a format that better suit me.

I suggest you try AKC's Midwest SPO's, ARHA's Little Pack or Progressive Pack or if you still like UKC, try their new Perfromance Pack. At least try some of them--------or stay fustrated.

wvduece · Post by **wvduece** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:21 am

i was at a ukc hunt a few years ago with a hunting judge knew very little about the rules i had already got a win on the dog i was running at a another hunt at the hunt i won everybody was very good at explaining the rules as we went along but on this particular hunt i expected the judge to be the same way ya know that judge never did strike his dog in said he couldnt hear her bark but the last 2 or 3 minutes of the hunt he struck his dog in at the time i didnt know any better guess some people will do anything to get a win no matter what it is their self esteem really must be low to try to build it up by winning a field trial still irks me at times just to think about it not trying to bash ukc its wasnt ukc fault its my fault for not knowing the rules jb

Anderson Upland Beagles · Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:03 am

well

tell you around here the ukc dogs are the ones that get picked up in akc events have to laugh to see they all finish for tittle hunting champion grand champion the quality of the hounds in my eyes I will not on-er a UKC tittle. years ago I went to hunt and the snow was 2 feet deep and we cast the dogs my dog was trying to run all i could see was his head in the snow jumping track to track well the judges dog ran back and forth on the trail we made going in .I told the judge to go make like he was going kill the rabbit so he score the running dog and he didn't well anyhow we got back to truck and he told me he won because he had more strike points lol what joke it was .I called UKC told what I thought of it .he took points away and i never ran another Ukc event .I did see that that finished for its great tittle lol .

I am akc field judge and will stay where the quality hounds are and can on er there pedigrees I cant imagine 20 years from now and some one reads ukc pedigree and wants to breed some of them hounds due to what they read .

TC · Post by TC » Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:29 am

ROTFLMAO
Bring em on MR ANDERSON bring em On
I can tell by your post YOU DONT WANT TO KNOW SQUAT about a GOOD hound!!!!!!
If you did you would realize there is more to beagling than just ONE TYPE OF HOUND and more than ONE registry..
I Dont like those AKC trackin hounds either but i dont Knock em all......

Anderson Upland Beagles · Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:48 am

ok dont take it wrong im sure there some good hounds run under ukc ..I dont see at the club i ran with and LOL yeah i know what kind hound I like to run .and judge only whats on the ground and just so youi know ive had beagles 25 years and do know a good one when see it .tell what lets just leave at that

Don't like those AKC tracking hounds either but i don't Knock em all......

track-en hounds ..that what there suppose too do you dont know me sew light..en...up

and I'm just telling it like was .if your where there you wouldn't believe it

didn't mean to offend you or any else so dont aFFend me

TC · Post by TC » Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:58 am

ok dont take it wrong im sure there some good hounds run under ukc ..I dont see at the club i ran with and LOL yeah i know what kind hound I like to run .and judge only whats on the ground and just so youi know ive had beagles 25 years and do know a good one when see it .tell what lets just leave at that

Ok Thats better LOL

Thats what i was gettin at there are GOOD hounds in All registrys just like there are Good judges in All registrys.

track-en hounds ..that what there suppose too do you dont know me sew light..en...up

Sorry ment TRAIL HOUNDS You know those that will just follow a trail With out the intent to Catch or activley Pursue

and I'm just telling it like was .if your where there you wouldn't believe it

OH BELIEVE ME I KNOW Exactly Whatt your Sayin been on that End of it MANY Times in AKC also

didn't mean to offend you or any else so dont aFFend me

You Did Offend me in a way when you Lumped ALL UKC Dogs into ONE group but heck I am Thick Skinned The AKC Show World tought me that LOL

I Apologize was just Doing like you and trying to get my point accross There are GOOD hounds in ALl formats just got to find the one you like and Find the Club you like same as AKC there are good and bad in all of em I have certain AKC andUKC clubs I will not go to just for the reasons you described
No hard feeling here You like what you like I like what I like and I am Sure we would get along just fine on a Good Rabbit hunt

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Anderson Upland Beagles · Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:54 am

Thanks tc TELL YOU IM HARE HUNTER AND DONT LIKE THEM SLOW HOUNDS BUT DO LIKE EM..TO RUN THE LINE IF THERE A CK LIKE EM..TO KNOW WHERE TO SMELL

screamaline · Post by **screamaline** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:19 pm

wvduece wrote:i was at a ukc hunt a few years ago with a hunting judge knew very little about the rules i had already got a win on the dog i was running at a another hunt at the hunt i won everybody was very good at explaining the rules as we went along but on this particular hunt i expected the judge to be the same way ya know that judge never did strike his dog in said he couldnt hear her bark but the last 2 or 3 minutes of the hunt he struck his dog in at the time i didnt know any better guess some people will do anything to get a win no matter what it is their self esteem really must be low to try to build it up by winning a field trial still irks me at times just to think about it not trying to bash ukc its wasnt ukc fault its my fault for not knowing the rules jb

MIKE, THE PROBLEM I'VE SEEN WITH UKC IT'S HANDLER AND NOT HOUND!!

flash · Post by **flash** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:49 pm

A JUDGE IN A CAST JUDGING HIS OWN HOUND .......... that seems real fair . The one and only UKC hunt I entered they even picked what dogs they wanted in which cast ..... WHAT A JOKE !!!!!!!!