how do feild trials work
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allen haire
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how do feild trials work
how ar ethey done i am big into rabbit and coon hunting and have done a good bit a competition in the coon hunting world and now would like to try the rabbit hunting competitions but i have no idea how they work and would really like to know
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mike crabtree
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Open this link and read from rule IX on. This is ARHA Little Pack.
http://www.arha.com/littlepack/lp_frameset.htm
http://www.arha.com/littlepack/lp_frameset.htm
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The best answer is to go to a few and check them out. I'm sure you'll have lots of fun. Exactly what field trials are like is alot in the eyes of the beholder. I'll give you a very brief rundown of them through my eyes.
First there are two very general formats.
1.) The most popular style of formats and oldest is where a pack of hounds (generally) 4 to 5 run a rabbit and a judge follows as closely as he can awarding points for good track work, pack work and hunting ability. Also hounds are judged for poor track work etc.... Under this format there are several different styles. Some are ARHA LP, ARHA PP, UKC PP, AKC SPO, AKC Brace and several others. They vary in style of dogs, some like very slow dogs, some like very fast dogs. The specific rules vary a bit from registry to registry and club to club a bit', but all the same basic format.
2. UKC HB, and PKC HH run a second general format of trials. Many don't like this kind, a lot do. Nationally it's not as popular, but has a good following. It's important to remember this format can't really be compared to the above style as it's a very different format, like comparing apples to oranges. This format is more comparable to a competition coon hunt. In general the entire cast is the judge. They don't try as hard to see the entire race. They award points for jumping the rabbit and then simulate a hunting situation a bit' as the cast members look for the rabbit the dogs are running, once spotted a "line" is "marked" and the cast awaits the pack to cross the line and awards points as to how they cross the line.
Both formats are full of good people. Find what you like, what style fits your hounds and enjoy it. Support all clubs and formats as we're all in it together.
First there are two very general formats.
1.) The most popular style of formats and oldest is where a pack of hounds (generally) 4 to 5 run a rabbit and a judge follows as closely as he can awarding points for good track work, pack work and hunting ability. Also hounds are judged for poor track work etc.... Under this format there are several different styles. Some are ARHA LP, ARHA PP, UKC PP, AKC SPO, AKC Brace and several others. They vary in style of dogs, some like very slow dogs, some like very fast dogs. The specific rules vary a bit from registry to registry and club to club a bit', but all the same basic format.
2. UKC HB, and PKC HH run a second general format of trials. Many don't like this kind, a lot do. Nationally it's not as popular, but has a good following. It's important to remember this format can't really be compared to the above style as it's a very different format, like comparing apples to oranges. This format is more comparable to a competition coon hunt. In general the entire cast is the judge. They don't try as hard to see the entire race. They award points for jumping the rabbit and then simulate a hunting situation a bit' as the cast members look for the rabbit the dogs are running, once spotted a "line" is "marked" and the cast awaits the pack to cross the line and awards points as to how they cross the line.
Both formats are full of good people. Find what you like, what style fits your hounds and enjoy it. Support all clubs and formats as we're all in it together.
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L.J. McKenzie
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Some advise. Don't judge a hound by a Trial record. If you decide to trial be ready for some dissapointments,or just learn that its a Trial,not everything is seen,the judges or cast can only do so much sometime the best hound wins sometimes it don't. Run the style hound you like,don't try to match the hound to the trial style match the trial style to the hound. Have fun!!!
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Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote. "Benjamin Franklin" 1759
Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote. "Benjamin Franklin" 1759
The field trials I have been to work like this.
You get up very early in the morning.
Get dressed, load the dogs in the truck, drive to the club house.
You get to the club house, fill out the papers, stand in line, pay your entry fee while listening to the guys that stand around the front make wise cracks about the guy's dogs that are entering (all in good fun).
After registration go get something to eat and listen to the guys in the kitchen area tell lies. After eating, get a cup of coffee and watch the bench show.
They roll the dogs to see which cast you are in.
Listen to some guy complain about how he is going to get cheated by judge so-n-so because he doesn't like his dog.
You listen to another guy talking about how good his dog is and how there is no dog around that can stay withing hearing distance.
Go get the dogs and bring to the casting stake.
The judge hands out the collars and asks, "Any one have a problem with the size of the dogs". You try to casually glance at one dog and determine if is is a Walker Coon Hound or a beagle and wonder if the guy knows it is a rabbit field trial, not a coon field trial.
You look hard at the other dogs and think,
"Too fat, hasn't been run that much - no problem."
"So skinny you can play a song on its ribs"
"That dog looks a lot like mine"
Make comments like, "What's that dog out of?"
"Nice looking dog" and "I hope mine doesn't chase deer, I've been trying to break him all week."
You hop in the truck and ride past some of the best looking rabbit habitat there is. You drive to a spot that you wouldn't bother hunting because it doesn't look good.
You unload the dogs, go over the collars and cast the hounds.
A dog barks 3 times and is pulls a minus after 3 minutes.
You think, "Cold trailing hound should be shot."
Your dog barks 3 times and pulls a minus. You say, "I know if they would have just given him a few more seconds he was going to jump a rabbit."
The dogs finally get a chase going. The judge comes back and the score is 10-25-25-25-0. The dog with 0 wasn't in the race, it has been standing around and should be scratched for not hunting. With 1 minute to go the dog with 0 trips over a rabbit and gets a strike jump and wins the cast.
Hop in the truck, go back to the club house, eat and tell lies.
You get up very early in the morning.
Get dressed, load the dogs in the truck, drive to the club house.
You get to the club house, fill out the papers, stand in line, pay your entry fee while listening to the guys that stand around the front make wise cracks about the guy's dogs that are entering (all in good fun).
After registration go get something to eat and listen to the guys in the kitchen area tell lies. After eating, get a cup of coffee and watch the bench show.
They roll the dogs to see which cast you are in.
Listen to some guy complain about how he is going to get cheated by judge so-n-so because he doesn't like his dog.
You listen to another guy talking about how good his dog is and how there is no dog around that can stay withing hearing distance.
Go get the dogs and bring to the casting stake.
The judge hands out the collars and asks, "Any one have a problem with the size of the dogs". You try to casually glance at one dog and determine if is is a Walker Coon Hound or a beagle and wonder if the guy knows it is a rabbit field trial, not a coon field trial.
You look hard at the other dogs and think,
"Too fat, hasn't been run that much - no problem."
"So skinny you can play a song on its ribs"
"That dog looks a lot like mine"
Make comments like, "What's that dog out of?"
"Nice looking dog" and "I hope mine doesn't chase deer, I've been trying to break him all week."
You hop in the truck and ride past some of the best looking rabbit habitat there is. You drive to a spot that you wouldn't bother hunting because it doesn't look good.
You unload the dogs, go over the collars and cast the hounds.
A dog barks 3 times and is pulls a minus after 3 minutes.
You think, "Cold trailing hound should be shot."
Your dog barks 3 times and pulls a minus. You say, "I know if they would have just given him a few more seconds he was going to jump a rabbit."
The dogs finally get a chase going. The judge comes back and the score is 10-25-25-25-0. The dog with 0 wasn't in the race, it has been standing around and should be scratched for not hunting. With 1 minute to go the dog with 0 trips over a rabbit and gets a strike jump and wins the cast.
Hop in the truck, go back to the club house, eat and tell lies.
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beagler282
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LMAO!!!! I have been there and seen that cast.Dog stood around the whole time by the handler and the judge thought he was hunting.Handler jumped a rabbit and his dog was close by him.The dog saw the rabbit and started sight chasing the rabbit right by the judge.Strike/Jump hollard the judge.Dog won! 
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Moore Beagles
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Zuk You just renewed my hopes,cus I have 1 that will stand around and sight chase like a fool. I didn't realize he was winning material,I can't wait to go!
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BBOARDING3
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Most field trial formats you are competing against other dogs.
Your dog is scored on
Finding a rabbit and picking the track up after a loss.
Depending on the format, they may award points for other positive attributes, and about all will deduct points for faults.
I have only run ARHA little pack (LP) trials.
They cast the dogs 5 at a time in open land (no enclosures or stocked rabbits) for one hour.
If a dog barks 3 times, he is on the clock.
The pack has 3 minutes to produce a rabbit.
If they produce a rabbit, the dog on the clock gets 10 points.
If they don't, he gets minus 10 points. If a dog pulls 3 minus during the hour, he is sent back to the truck.
If a dog jumps a rabbit, it is awarded 30 points.
Checks are worth 25 points.
A check is when the pack quits progressing the track for 15 seconds or more. The dog that recovers the track, and progresses the line is awarded 25 points.
Dogs will be minused (-10) for pulling other dogs out of the check area.
That is it in a nutshell, the rules are not complicated.
The handler has to do nothing other than catch his dog when the judge tells you to handle you dog. (Usually after each race).
The overall trial is a tournament. Say you have 50 dogs.
They will have 10 casts in the first hour, and return to the club house.
The 10 winners advance to the next hour (2 casts).
The winner of those two casts will run in the finals to determine 1st and 2nd places in the whole hunt.
Your dog is scored on
Finding a rabbit and picking the track up after a loss.
Depending on the format, they may award points for other positive attributes, and about all will deduct points for faults.
I have only run ARHA little pack (LP) trials.
They cast the dogs 5 at a time in open land (no enclosures or stocked rabbits) for one hour.
If a dog barks 3 times, he is on the clock.
The pack has 3 minutes to produce a rabbit.
If they produce a rabbit, the dog on the clock gets 10 points.
If they don't, he gets minus 10 points. If a dog pulls 3 minus during the hour, he is sent back to the truck.
If a dog jumps a rabbit, it is awarded 30 points.
Checks are worth 25 points.
A check is when the pack quits progressing the track for 15 seconds or more. The dog that recovers the track, and progresses the line is awarded 25 points.
Dogs will be minused (-10) for pulling other dogs out of the check area.
That is it in a nutshell, the rules are not complicated.
The handler has to do nothing other than catch his dog when the judge tells you to handle you dog. (Usually after each race).
The overall trial is a tournament. Say you have 50 dogs.
They will have 10 casts in the first hour, and return to the club house.
The 10 winners advance to the next hour (2 casts).
The winner of those two casts will run in the finals to determine 1st and 2nd places in the whole hunt.