NBC 2005 BOB Ch. Windkist A Walk In The Park

[Honey Pot Hounds]

I was quite disgusted by a post placed on this forum that called Parker a "generic" showdog and basically alluded to the fact that he won the NBC through political means. I do not own the dog, I have no claim on the dog and I can take no credit for any success he has ever had in his life. But I have seen this dog several times in the flesh, I know what he can produce and I know that he earned his NBC win on his own merits. I also know that he has not had ONE AD in one dog magazine since he won Westminster in Feb. 2005.

I think it might be educational for some of you more open minded Beaglers to read what judge Skip Herendeen wrote about this "generic" Beagle in the recent Nationals edition of Show Beagle Quarterly

BOV Ch. Windkist A Walk in The Park.
by Judge Skip Herendeen

"A compact sturdy dog that is more than big for his inches. His angles,which in my opinion are as balanced as you can get, are ideal for a long day's work in the field. This goes along with his depth of chest and spring of rib for great heart and lung capacity. Balance this with the proper coat. His top was like a rock on the move and never a roll of the shoulders was to be seen. Going away, you drop a line from the ilium, through the ischium down through the pads creating a balanced and powerful rear propulsion. Coming at you was much the same with the entire forequarters as true as could be and never out of sync with the rear. From the side the dog was breathtaking with long easy movements that covered the vast amount of ground with each step. He never put a foot wrong and on this day he was not to be denied.

....The day...... belonged to (Parker) who I have awarded a couple of groups to in the past. I have never seen him show the way he did today. When they both went around for the last time, the eventual winner shot to the end of his lead and thrilled all with an immaculate presentation of heart, class and showmanship. in my opinion, he is without equal in our breed today. a wonderful, worthy winner of our 2005 NBC National specialty...."

[blunder]

Very good post!!
While I too have no claim to this dog, I know his breeder very well and know first hand what went into the breeding that produced him. Leah has spent years learning how to produce exceptional dogs, and believe me "Parker" was no accident.
Here is an example of the quality of that line.

Stanley (full brother to Parker)
http://www.hunt101.com/img/317248.jpg

tom

[Honey Pot Hounds]

Hi Tom,
Thankyou for the post and the picture of Stanley. I have Parker and Stanleys littermate "Mary" and boy is she a pleasure to watch move! She is also a excellent freewhelper and one good little Mama!
Congrats on your success in Beagles too. I see you guys did very well at Nats I was late to catch the Nats thread so I'm sorry that never had a chance to congratulate you at the time.
All the best,

[blunder]

I see you guys did very well at Nats

Actually at PABC with Wisper, Corinne had a "wardwrobe malfunction" at NBC so she was more concerned with keeping her blouse on than she was with showing the dog.
Trina did get an open class 2nd at NBC tho' with Poo.

Those "free welpers" are worth their weight in gold BTW

Corinne kneeling, Trina standing with "Poo"
http://www.sweetbreezbeagles.com/Poo_firstpoint.jpg

tom

[blackdirt beagles]

let me say i really know nothing about show dogs so here goes...

you speak so highly of "free whelpers" which i take it as meaning "natural" birth with no C section or troubles. to date, i have never had any problems with any of my females out of "hunting stock". im just curious as to why anyone would keep and continue to breed a line of dogs with this "condition". to me, a hunter, that would be a pretty big fault. i guess its just one of the differences between "show" dogs and "hunters"... but shouldnt a "properly built" beagle be able to have pups naturally???

[blunder]

but shouldnt a "properly built" beagle be able to have pups naturally???

Most can,,,,,, provided the pups are positioned properlly.
Where Beagles have always had a problem is with 15in pups out of 13in bitches.

tom

[blackdirt beagles]

thanks for the reply. we interbreed the sizes quite often as size is of little concern and dont see any troubles as pups at birth are the same for a 13" as for a 15" dog. ive heard that overfeeding pregnant dogs and underexercising is the main cause of too big pups. i personally prefer the 15"s and breed for a larger dog without any trouble.

[Beagled1]

Don't take some of those rude comments to heart ... personally I can say I'd be proud ot own such a "generic" show Beagle. Mainly because I see nothing generic about him. Those here who have no regard for conformation don't realize how involved a process it was to breed for and condition a dog to reach the level of success that Parker has attained.
There is also a slight degree of jealousy coming into play because of the money involved in finishing and specialing a champion ... but really, we all wish we had dogs that looked like that and could still run a bunny ragged
As for the free whelping issue that came up ... this is my 2 cents. How many 13" or smaller field line bitches have died or had complications then died after whelping a litter of pups from a larger male? How many hunting bitches of any size were not watched vigilantly enough after a litter and either died herself or lost pups as a result of something preventable? Personally I can think of several instances. One that involved a supposedly knowledgable field trial judge who had half his litter die of a very treatable parasitic condition ususlly brought on by less than sanitary conditions. He either didn;t clean up often enough to see the liquid stools that are always present with this problem or didn't care enough to take the pups to the vet until the fourth one died. He lost half the litter before he did anything. I'm sure this is not a common occurrence, but it does happen in field lines. We have our own set of whelping issues so I don't think its right to point out others. Take the log out of your own eye before you can take the speck out of your friend's eye.

[blackdirt beagles]

lol... sorry if i bent anyones nose out of whack. i didnt mean for my comments to sound rude at all. i was just curious. as far as any jealousy on my part... i'll keep what i got any day and be very happy.

[mooredog]

if Leah needs to get rid of one of those "GENERIC" hounds i'll give it a good home. it does not need to run a rabbit ,I LOVE THOSE WINDKIST BEAGLES. I enjoy just looking at her great dogs.!!!!!

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if Leah needs to get rid of one of those "GENERIC" hounds i'll give it a good home. it does not need to run a rabbit ,I LOVE THOSE WINDKIST BEAGLES. I enjoy just looking at her great dogs.!!!!!

LOL
Well we made our own

Stanley x Peanut
Chuck
http://www.sweetbreezbeagles.com/DSC014 ... 00x600.jpg

tom

[Honey Pot Hounds]

Leahs a great person. No field Beagler worth his/her salt should ever be afraid to email her to talk dogs. You never know what she might do for ya! I think too many people think that all of us show people are rich snobs or something. Trust me, that is far from the truth! Yeah, we are "dog snobs" for sure but we all know that none of our dogs are totally perfect either.

Leah has always been willing to help ANYONE who honestly wants to listen, learn and improve what they've got

[mooredog]

I have talked to Leah many times and she has always been more than helpful and a very sweet and kind person. I LOVE HER HOUNDS

[TOUCHSTONE]

Parker sure is a nice hound. It is interesting that you mentioned that show people are interested in talking to us field guys. Have been to many hunts and don't recall seeing any of you folks around to share info. Many field people are interested in learning about structure and how it relates to hunt. Some of us want to see the breed become a total breed that can do both hunt and show. Both form and function are important to the breed as a whole. We are making an effort. Are any show people involved in this endeavor? Do any show people contribute to this effort by giving seminars at hunts in their area, etc?? Or are they too busy getting ready for the next show? It is difficult to talk to you at your events because all too often the handler comes out of the ring and hands the dog off to his helper and heads for the next ring for his next client. The helper must take the dog back and care for it and get the next dog ready to show. Am I right or not?? You have great knowledge to share...what is holding you back????

[blunder]

Have been to many hunts and don't recall seeing any of you folks around to share info. Many field people are interested in learning about structure and how it relates to hunt. Some of us want to see the breed become a total breed that can do both hunt and show. Both form and function are important to the breed as a whole. We are making an effort. Are any show people involved in this endeavor?

Simple geography has as much to do with the lack of parcipitation by show people as anything. I would venture to say that it would be a thousand mile trip to a Beagle field event from here. Since Leah only lives about a mile from us, it would be the same thousand mile trip for her.
I do have field dogs (different breed) and have participated in field events for over fifty years, and have titled several.

Elite's Sepia Thunder (Blunder)


tom