Shame and Hypocracy of the New York Times
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Shame and Hypocracy of the New York Times
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"We noted yesterday the fingerwagging at CNN over the Fort Hood shootings and the urge to link it to radical Islam, and the rush at the network to blame another mass murder on Republicans like Sarah Palin and Tea Party activists, even though the shooter had no known link to either. Many of our commenters rightly stated that CNN was hardly alone in this utter hypocrisy, and Philip Klein at the American Spectator provides another air-tight case. He compares editorials from the New York Times then and now to expose the Gray Lady as a shrieking hysteric and a sickening example of media sources that act more like attack dogs than journalists:
November 8, 2009:
In the aftermath of this unforgivable attack, it will be important to avoid drawing prejudicial conclusions from the fact that Major Hasan is an American Muslim whose parents came from the Middle East.
President Obama was right when he told Americans, “we don’t know all the answers yet” and cautioned everyone against “jumping to conclusions.”
Unverified reports, some from his family members, suggest that Major Hasan complained of harassment by fellow soldiers for being a Muslim, that he hoped to get out of a deployment to Afghanistan, that he sought a discharge from the Army and that he opposed the American military involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan. There were reports that some soldiers said they had heard him shout “God is Great” in Arabic before he started firing. But until investigations are complete, no one can begin to imagine what could possibly have motivated this latest appalling rampage.
There may never be an explanation. And, certainly, there can never be a justification.
January 10, 2011:
It is facile and mistaken to attribute this particular madman’s act directly to Republicans or Tea Party members. But it is legitimate to hold Republicans and particularly their most virulent supporters in the media responsible for the gale of anger that has produced the vast majority of these threats, setting the nation on edge. Many on the right have exploited the arguments of division, reaping political power by demonizing immigrants, or welfare recipients, or bureaucrats. They seem to have persuaded many Americans that the government is not just misguided, but the enemy of the people.
That whirlwind has touched down most forcefully in Arizona, which Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik described after the shooting as the capital of “the anger, the hatred and the bigotry that goes on in this country.” Anti-immigrant sentiment in the state, firmly opposed by Ms. Giffords, has reached the point where Latino studies programs that advocate ethnic solidarity have actually been made illegal.
Its gun laws are among the most lenient, allowing even a disturbed man like Mr. Loughner to buy a pistol and carry it concealed without a special permit. That was before the Tucson rampage. Now, having seen first hand the horror of political violence, Arizona should lead the nation in quieting the voices of intolerance, demanding an end to the temptations of bloodshed, and imposing sensible controls on its instruments.
The difference between the two shootings was that subsequent evidence showed that Nidal Hasan communicated with a known al-Qaeda leader, Anwar al-Awlaki, and shouted “Allah akbar!” during his murder spree. His radicalization had become known to his chain of command, which worried about overreacting rather than addressing the threat. Everyone bent over backwards to avoid dealing with Hasan, including those who knew of his secret communications with Awlaki.
In contrast, no one has posited even a remote connection between Loughner and the GOP or the Tea Party. The Times also conveniently ignores the fact that both sides use the same imagery and indulge in the same demonization, including the Times itself in this editorial by imputing blame for a mass murder on people with legitimate political grievances who address them within the political system. That’s not just hypocritical, it’s exceptionally despicable.
Advising people not to jump to conclusions in the immediate aftermath of the Fort Hood shootings was good advice. Too bad the New York Times wanted to smear its political opponents so badly with this shooting in Arizona that they couldn’t accept their own counsel. Like CNN, the Times holds itself out as a supposedly non-partisan source of news and information, and like CNN, their hypocrisy reveals the truth now in a particularly ugly manner."
"We noted yesterday the fingerwagging at CNN over the Fort Hood shootings and the urge to link it to radical Islam, and the rush at the network to blame another mass murder on Republicans like Sarah Palin and Tea Party activists, even though the shooter had no known link to either. Many of our commenters rightly stated that CNN was hardly alone in this utter hypocrisy, and Philip Klein at the American Spectator provides another air-tight case. He compares editorials from the New York Times then and now to expose the Gray Lady as a shrieking hysteric and a sickening example of media sources that act more like attack dogs than journalists:
November 8, 2009:
In the aftermath of this unforgivable attack, it will be important to avoid drawing prejudicial conclusions from the fact that Major Hasan is an American Muslim whose parents came from the Middle East.
President Obama was right when he told Americans, “we don’t know all the answers yet” and cautioned everyone against “jumping to conclusions.”
Unverified reports, some from his family members, suggest that Major Hasan complained of harassment by fellow soldiers for being a Muslim, that he hoped to get out of a deployment to Afghanistan, that he sought a discharge from the Army and that he opposed the American military involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan. There were reports that some soldiers said they had heard him shout “God is Great” in Arabic before he started firing. But until investigations are complete, no one can begin to imagine what could possibly have motivated this latest appalling rampage.
There may never be an explanation. And, certainly, there can never be a justification.
January 10, 2011:
It is facile and mistaken to attribute this particular madman’s act directly to Republicans or Tea Party members. But it is legitimate to hold Republicans and particularly their most virulent supporters in the media responsible for the gale of anger that has produced the vast majority of these threats, setting the nation on edge. Many on the right have exploited the arguments of division, reaping political power by demonizing immigrants, or welfare recipients, or bureaucrats. They seem to have persuaded many Americans that the government is not just misguided, but the enemy of the people.
That whirlwind has touched down most forcefully in Arizona, which Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik described after the shooting as the capital of “the anger, the hatred and the bigotry that goes on in this country.” Anti-immigrant sentiment in the state, firmly opposed by Ms. Giffords, has reached the point where Latino studies programs that advocate ethnic solidarity have actually been made illegal.
Its gun laws are among the most lenient, allowing even a disturbed man like Mr. Loughner to buy a pistol and carry it concealed without a special permit. That was before the Tucson rampage. Now, having seen first hand the horror of political violence, Arizona should lead the nation in quieting the voices of intolerance, demanding an end to the temptations of bloodshed, and imposing sensible controls on its instruments.
The difference between the two shootings was that subsequent evidence showed that Nidal Hasan communicated with a known al-Qaeda leader, Anwar al-Awlaki, and shouted “Allah akbar!” during his murder spree. His radicalization had become known to his chain of command, which worried about overreacting rather than addressing the threat. Everyone bent over backwards to avoid dealing with Hasan, including those who knew of his secret communications with Awlaki.
In contrast, no one has posited even a remote connection between Loughner and the GOP or the Tea Party. The Times also conveniently ignores the fact that both sides use the same imagery and indulge in the same demonization, including the Times itself in this editorial by imputing blame for a mass murder on people with legitimate political grievances who address them within the political system. That’s not just hypocritical, it’s exceptionally despicable.
Advising people not to jump to conclusions in the immediate aftermath of the Fort Hood shootings was good advice. Too bad the New York Times wanted to smear its political opponents so badly with this shooting in Arizona that they couldn’t accept their own counsel. Like CNN, the Times holds itself out as a supposedly non-partisan source of news and information, and like CNN, their hypocrisy reveals the truth now in a particularly ugly manner."
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PMB,
How can you sit there and say FOX,Beck,O'Riely,Palin, etc. spew hate, when all they do is tell people to stay aware of what socialist politicians are up to. And as far as linking anything they say to the nut who did the shooting is foolish. You are spewing hate and blame just so you can convince yourself your right. All i've noticed is other people trying to inform others of the complete corruption in the present administration.
How can you sit there and say FOX,Beck,O'Riely,Palin, etc. spew hate, when all they do is tell people to stay aware of what socialist politicians are up to. And as far as linking anything they say to the nut who did the shooting is foolish. You are spewing hate and blame just so you can convince yourself your right. All i've noticed is other people trying to inform others of the complete corruption in the present administration.
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Rufus, you are a blind IDIOT. Pure and simple. Believe ANYTHING MSNBC tells you to believe...
IF you can lay this shooting at the feet of Sarah Palin then I fully expect YOU and other liberal retards like you to IMMEDIATELY and WITHOUT DELAY begin calling for the arrest, imprisionment and possible DEATH PENALTY for JODI FOSTER...you remember, the one who caused John Hinkley Jr to shoot Ronald Reagan??
I won't hold my breath though....IDIOT.
IF you can lay this shooting at the feet of Sarah Palin then I fully expect YOU and other liberal retards like you to IMMEDIATELY and WITHOUT DELAY begin calling for the arrest, imprisionment and possible DEATH PENALTY for JODI FOSTER...you remember, the one who caused John Hinkley Jr to shoot Ronald Reagan??
I won't hold my breath though....IDIOT.
The 1st amendment allows the usual liberal narcissistic "I think.." which is how they start all their sentences.
The second amendment protects us from implementing "I think"
The second amendment protects us from implementing "I think"
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PMB,
No i haven't been living in a cave, I've been living in my home which i pay for, not from spread the wealth contributions, but from the money i earn. This is a concept that must bother your liberal sense of view. And as I've stated before you are spewing hatred. Fact : i have never heard a more idiotic point of view than the one you have taken on this tragic shooting. Lets all go to your magic little world and blame things ( a gun, free speech, ) instead of the person who pulled the trigger. By what you have written, in your world you might be a threat to Republicans, maybe the magic Republican police will come get you. You are a pompous knob.
No i haven't been living in a cave, I've been living in my home which i pay for, not from spread the wealth contributions, but from the money i earn. This is a concept that must bother your liberal sense of view. And as I've stated before you are spewing hatred. Fact : i have never heard a more idiotic point of view than the one you have taken on this tragic shooting. Lets all go to your magic little world and blame things ( a gun, free speech, ) instead of the person who pulled the trigger. By what you have written, in your world you might be a threat to Republicans, maybe the magic Republican police will come get you. You are a pompous knob.
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The guy who pulled the trigger was a registered independant! I think you should sign up for a public assistance program for anger management, because all you do is spew hate and nonsense when you don't get your way.
P.S. Good luck with that wake up smiley thing...........
P.S. Good luck with that wake up smiley thing...........

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Reports are out that the trigger man did not watch any news channels. Pine nut is so deranged that he cannot even admitt that cnn had a show called cross fire that used cross hairs as their logo. Its ok for the left right pinenut. The left has talked in the last week about shooting Rush and using Chenney heart like a football. My quetion is why none of this was reported during the Bush years like it is now under the obumer watch.
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Can you believe all the hype on this event. It's been going on for a week. There was a kidnapping, torture for a week and then the murder of two young adults in Knoxville,Tn a couple years ago and it hardly made the national news. Three men and an woman, hijacked a young man and his girl friend, took them prisoner, raped them repeatedly in every orifice in their body and then poked them with a broom handle. Still it wasn't labeled a hate crime just an ordinary event in the eyes of justice department, police department, and news media.
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I remember that distinctly because it pissed me off so badly...the prosecutor in that case, a LIBERAL, decided there was no evidence that it was a HATE CRIME, even though ALL the animals that did this are BLACK and the victims were WHITE...they raped that guy, killed him and left him on the train tracks, raped the girl repeatedly and poured bleach down her throat to try and remove and DNA evidence, cut her into pieces and stuffed her into a trash can...each and every one of those bastards should be forced to drink bleach and be cut into little pieces just like she was, only do them with a very, very DULL SPOON. Im getting pissed again just typing this...Newt wrote:Can you believe all the hype on this event. It's been going on for a week. There was a kidnapping, torture for a week and then the murder of two young adults in Knoxville,Tn a couple years ago and it hardly made the national news. Three men and an woman, hijacked a young man and his girl friend, took them prisoner, raped them repeatedly in every orifice in their body and then poked them with a broom handle. Still it wasn't labeled a hate crime just an ordinary event in the eyes of justice department, police department, and news media.


The 1st amendment allows the usual liberal narcissistic "I think.." which is how they start all their sentences.
The second amendment protects us from implementing "I think"
The second amendment protects us from implementing "I think"
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If the judge is anything like PMB he'll charge the manufacturer of the bleach with the murder and set the animals free!
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So Rufus I take it you had all your Guns melted Down?? Have you made your annual donation to Hsus as well as Peta also?. We Know how much you Love Contributing to the Abortion Clinics as well....Because these are all things YOUR Man Supports.
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Oh PMB, the TRUTH is out. This idiot was is a left leaning registered independent (reminds me of you) as said by his friends. Probably influenced by Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Dodd, and so on with their racial and class warfare. He was influenced by the lefts message of disdain for anyone not a minority or that had become successful and their desire to tear them down. I could also make a case of him following liberals like Micheal Moore who has done how many hate documentries about George W. Bush. Shame on left and their hate messaging!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!