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Rabbithoundjb wrote:5000 Have you lost your mind, do you realize how many pieces of legislation/regulations/executive orders this moron has passed. Nobody is stopping him from doing anything except screwing up even more. The one thing you are right about is this didn't just happen maybe you should go follow the legislation that caused the economic collapse and come back and tell us how great the dems are and how sorry the repubs. are. I have posed this question many times show us all the legislation that a republican president signed that caused the housing collapse, the banking collapse, the market collapse, employment collapse and thus the economy collapse, so lets see it cause laws have results just like elections. See I don't like the republicans either but they are a he!! of lot better than the democrats. OBAMA SUX!!!!!!!
As far as Syria goes he!! no one side is a ruthless dictator and the other is terrorist rebels, they both want us dead.
Another thing while I am at it this voter ID crap that you leftist keep moaning about. So what you are telling me is that republican voters are smarter than democrat voters since obviously voter ID is only going to disenfranchise democrat voters. Republican voters are smart enough to get ID's. I love to waatch these elected democrats get on TV in front of a whole gang of democrat voters and tell everyone watching that these dummazzes behind me aren't smart enough to get and ID while they stand back there clapping like they won the lottery, maybe the elected official is actually right.
By the way what principles exactly is it that the democrat party supports that you believe in maybe the destruction of traditional family values or is it taking god out of their party platform or maybe payinxg young girls more taxpayer money if don't get married and have even more babies or on demand baby killing or taking from the productive to support the non productive. That's just a start but I'll leave it to you to elaborate on just what it is.
I am not even talking about the Ids so much as closing polling places on college campuses where mostly democrats vote. You know the educated of society. And closing polling places in black neighborhoods. Did u see Florida and South Carolina. In white neighborhoods they had maybe a 20 30 minute wait in some neighborhoods but cross those tracks and blacks had to wait up to 12 hours to vote. And this voter id crap is nonsense. In the last 40 years they have maybe had ten cases of fraud out of a billion votes or so. Don't you dare sit and pretend it isn't happening because it is and even the NRC says its the only way the republicans will win another election. Because their politics are out of touch. Which is a a she because they have some food ideas about states rights and crime and welfare.
And yes taking god out of politics is not only smart but in the constitution. I am tired of this dems are satanist because of separation of church and state. And paying for birth control as part of healthcare would cut out a majority of those aborted babies. It's funny how you decide unborn babies are gods creatures but once they are born well then it's, screw those welfare bums and block laws to give them help or welfare. I have kids in my school who only get to eat a decent friggen meal because the school provides it. Heaven forbid we feed kids because f them they are just going to "on the system". But let's not tax the rich because they earned it. Null crap the rich make laws to protect themselves. Look at the gap between the poor and rich. How about this failed republican policy; trickle down economic, lying to the American people to start two wars and spending trillions to do it.
God isn't real, Beer is good and people are crazy, there I fixed it.
If Obama can't explain what happened in Benghazi and why we didn't protect Americans, then why should we send American troops to protect folks who hate us. Its a Sunni vs Shite fight. Neither is a friend to America. Have Homeland Security send each side some of those guns and ammunition they have beeen hoarding.
So 5000 there ya go with your twist, I didn't say anything about separation of church and state. I said the democrats are becoming an ungodly party, what your saying is you should be an atheist to be a viable candidate to hold a political office, how do you like me twisting your words. I also didn't say anything about not helping the needy, I said the democrats set policy that enables the needy to dig themselves into an even deeper hole at the expense of the people making responsible discisions, my point is if they where not being paid to make those bad discisions they wouldn't. Voter ID is all I have heard being raised he!! about, I will have to look at these poll closings that you are talking about, you may be right. One voter fraud case is toooooooooo many. I am sure there are polls of all races who have lines where they vote and I am sure there are polls of all races who don't have lines. Health departments give birth control to the poor free so your argument doesn't hold water. where do you draw the line on giving help, from cradle to grave, 12 months, 3 years, how long. The wealthiest 1% pay 40% of the annual tax burden while the bottom 45% pay nothing, sound fair to you. The top 25% pays 85% of the annual tax burden. I'm sure a smart guy like you can find that information out without me telling you though. The gap between the rich and poor has always been growing that's how come ones rich and the other is poor, its grown under every democrat president toooooo. Fact is the rich paid a higher burden f the tax revenue under Bush than they did under Clinton. So you can't produce any legislation signed by a republican so you fall back on leftist talking points, LMAO!!!!! You should take a look at the amount of tax payer money spent on non earned entitlements over the last 12 years verses the war spending. By the way I was not for occupying and rebuilding any of these countries we go to war with. If your going bust their azz and come home. The war spending pales in comparison and guess what if someone doesn't get a handle on the entitlement spending it WILL bankrupt this country because like Iraq the wars will end. The entitlements are not only not ending there expanding and growing everyday.
Rabbithoundjb wrote:5000 Have you lost your mind, do you realize how many pieces of legislation/regulations/executive orders this moron has passed. Nobody is stopping him from doing anything except screwing up even more. The one thing you are right about is this didn't just happen maybe you should go follow the legislation that caused the economic collapse and come back and tell us how great the dems are and how sorry the repubs. are. I have posed this question many times show us all the legislation that a republican president signed that caused the housing collapse, the banking collapse, the market collapse, employment collapse and thus the economy collapse, so lets see it cause laws have results just like elections. See I don't like the republicans either but they are a he!! of lot better than the democrats. OBAMA SUX!!!!!!!
As far as Syria goes he!! no one side is a ruthless dictator and the other is terrorist rebels, they both want us dead.
Another thing while I am at it this voter ID crap that you leftist keep moaning about. So what you are telling me is that republican voters are smarter than democrat voters since obviously voter ID is only going to disenfranchise democrat voters. Republican voters are smart enough to get ID's. I love to waatch these elected democrats get on TV in front of a whole gang of democrat voters and tell everyone watching that these dummazzes behind me aren't smart enough to get and ID while they stand back there clapping like they won the lottery, maybe the elected official is actually right.
By the way what principles exactly is it that the democrat party supports that you believe in maybe the destruction of traditional family values or is it taking god out of their party platform or maybe payinxg young girls more taxpayer money if don't get married and have even more babies or on demand baby killing or taking from the productive to support the non productive. That's just a start but I'll leave it to you to elaborate on just what it is.
I am not even talking about the Ids so much as closing polling places on college campuses where mostly democrats vote. You know the educated of society. And closing polling places in black neighborhoods. Did u see Florida and South Carolina. In white neighborhoods they had maybe a 20 30 minute wait in some neighborhoods but cross those tracks and blacks had to wait up to 12 hours to vote. And this voter id crap is nonsense. In the last 40 years they have maybe had ten cases of fraud out of a billion votes or so. Don't you dare sit and pretend it isn't happening because it is and even the NRC says its the only way the republicans will win another election. Because their politics are out of touch. Which is a a she because they have some food ideas about states rights and crime and welfare.
And yes taking god out of politics is not only smart but in the constitution. I am tired of this dems are satanist because of separation of church and state. And paying for birth control as part of healthcare would cut out a majority of those aborted babies. It's funny how you decide unborn babies are gods creatures but once they are born well then it's, screw those welfare bums and block laws to give them help or welfare. I have kids in my school who only get to eat a decent friggen meal because the school provides it. Heaven forbid we feed kids because f them they are just going to "on the system". But let's not tax the rich because they earned it. Null crap the rich make laws to protect themselves. Look at the gap between the poor and rich. How about this failed republican policy; trickle down economic, lying to the American people to start two wars and spending trillions to do it.
Seperation of church and state does not mean its ok to murder. It was established because of the persecution protestants faced from catholics. It means there isn't a national church. It does NOT mean you can throw out morals to fit the agenda of the everincreasing corrupt world we live in. Everyone has the same oppurtunities in this country and all should pay equal percentage to live here. You don't like "trickle down economics" I don't like trickle up poverty. It strikes me odd that you want to take from one man to give another because they have some sort of entitlement, then say a fellow human across the big pond doesn't deserve the same so called rights. You act like its our problem to worry about someone else starving, then say screw those civilians that got poisoned in syria. I wish you democrats would pick a side of the fence and stay on it. I will agree with you on one thing tho. ONLY HELP THOSE THAT TRY TO HELP THEMSELVES! I'm neither for or against syria because I don't have enough knowledge on the subject. Mb5k, real educated people take what they're taught and try to decipher what the believe to be true. Colleges today only promote one political party and most the students just soak it up like a sponge. They don't develope their own ideas. Its very similar to how the media tells people who they should vote for. A true educated voter, who cares about their country's future, should understand each parties policies. Instead, most americans are lazy and stupid and won't try to do research to form their own ideas. They are just a sponge and believe what the media says. One of my favorite quotes sums up how I feel what direction our country is heading. "What is popular isn't always right, and what's right isn't always popular" Most everyone agrees our country is headed in a wrong direction. If everyone would open their eyes they would see our country is headed to the LEFT!
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Regardless of your religious or political views the fact remains we have no place in that war it is a civil war as long as it stays within it's own boarders and does not effect anything on US soil leave it alone. When our own allies are telling us to stay out of it and mind our own business you would think our commander and chief would listen instead he continues to make us look weak and spend millions traveling the world trying to find someone to help fix his shattered ego. When did the day come that we the people became those who serve his goals were shipped overseas to fight for people who have hated us for hundreds of years and by doing so we are creating future generations of people who will continue to hate us. Why don't we start with fixing our own issue's and quit spending billions in other countries we gave away around 37 billion in foreign aid last year how many of those countries were here to help us during Katrina or any of our other national disasters.
Are you kidding me? Who pays the health department? The government does an that's the problem. The insurance companies should be paying it and even if it wasn't the case look at Texas and Alabama. They are closing all the health departments and clinics so no one can get birth control anthem they wonder why they have the most poverty and unwanted kids.
Again, who says an abortion is murder? According to 65 percent of our country and the Supreme Court does not consider it murder under the right circumstances.. Or do you just not like that part of the constitution that gives women control of their bodies....
Fianal thought, not everyone has equal chance in this country. Try being born in a project in Harlem and see if you can make it... I know there are a lot of exceptions and people do make it but its easy for us to say from our vantage point but try growing up with parents who don't care and are doing dope or in prison while you get pushed in the system. Do I care about the people in Syria? He'll yes I do but I feel our first priority is taking care of our own. And I really don't care if the rich pay 99 percent o their income because its still making more than enough to live on. It's always funny how its Christian's saying that prosperity ,greed and getting everything you even if it hurts other people should be the values taught and then blast the dens for wanting to make sure people can see a doctor without going into poverty.. Sorry my grammar sucks iPhones are terrible for typing.
God isn't real, Beer is good and people are crazy, there I fixed it.
I won't bash your grammar if you don't bash mine (all I'm ever on is a phone). However, I have different beliefs than you. What is the difference in saying lets take care of our own and let me take care of my own? I believe abortion is murder regardless of what the popular belief is. I believe in small government and states rights. I believe the constitution was very specific when it delegated powers(expressed, inherent, and implied). The bigger the government the worse off we are. Example being usps vs fed ex. The private sector is more successful. People think health insurance premiums have been high. Wait until these gauranteed issue obama care plans become available. I Gaurantee you prices will be greater than or equal to the current cost of COBRA plans. The biggest problem our country faces is that we try to get out of a hole by digging. We need to get our debt under control which requires cutting spending (which no one wants to do, but we need to) We need to increase taxes on imported goods so that we can promote our own goods. You do not have the right to put a limit on one man's success. Everybody should believe in equal rights (that should also include the right to maintain the same percentage of money earned imo) I'm a poorboy and I can understand this. If I work overtime my paychecks get bigger...up to a point, then I hit another taxbracket and more goes to uncle sam and my paychecks will be smaller than if I had just worked a few hours of ot. Ugghh I get so mad. Most people will always say raise taxes on the rich, if most people were rich they would not have the same beliefs.
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Are you kidding me, the government don't pay for $hit. The tax payers do and if you think the insurance companies aren't going to pass that cost on to the consumers who already pay for the free pills then the education system has already failed you. There is no cost containment in the affordable care act, kind of a strange name for legislation that has no affordability in it. That's because it another democrat entitlement bill. Show me in the constitution where a women can choose to abort her baby and tell me when is it murder, after it has a heartbeat, at 6 months, at 8 months or even after its out of the womb. Mind you I personally believe that if a women wants to kill her baby that's her choice as long as I am in NO WAY required to help fund it. Her choice, her responsibility. Ask Dr. Ben Carson about being born in the projects and making it and he's not the only one so feed that crap to someone who wasn't poor himself on the farm struggling to make it and worked a full time job to pay my way through college twice. While the top 1% pay 40% of the tax burden they only own 23% of the wealth, do the math they already pay more than their share. If your so he!! bent on taking care of all these problems give up 99% of your income, oh that's right you have thing you like to do that you wouldn't be able to so take someone else's. right.
Newt wrote:If Obama can't explain what happened in Benghazi and why we didn't protect Americans, then why should we send American troops to protect folks who hate us. Its a Sunni vs Shite fight. Neither is a friend to America. Have Homeland Security send each side some of those guns and ammunition they have beeen hoarding.
Totally agree 1000000%
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" Rebels" killing military personnel, and Military personnel killing " rebels". That is a civil war, it is unfortunate but that is a choice they get to decide. If that is what is happening we don't need to make it any of our business, But, those of you that have young children take a look at them, those of us that have grown children think about them when they were just children, think about the innocence, their dependency on you. doesn't it make your blood boil to think that children just like them are being killed by any means let alone by poison gas. I don't need to hear about when these little ones grow up they will hate us. They are not grown up they are children. I think you would have to search long and hard amongst our U.S. servicemen and Women to find one who would be comfortable allowing this kind of Slaughter, If this is what is happening we need to step in, to stand by and do nothing makes us an accomplice to the worst kind of evil!
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Here is something you guys may want to see. These are the people that we are trying to get involved with? You think you can fix this guy?
4 pages of ?, we are the only country in the world that goes to war sticking our noise where it does not belong.then we go back after destroying it and give money and help rebuild. stick to our business first. just another openion like the last 4 pages.
GW, its always sad to see the innocent as victims. However, those kids grow up to be terrorists. I'm tired of spending borrowed money, troops, and equipment to a foreign country were folks cheer every time there is an American disaster. We don't even know which side spread the poison gas. No matter which side did it, the other side would if they had the opportunity. Let the Sunnis and the Shiites fight their own battles. If Obama wants to choose a side, let him take Air Force I over there and join the fray. He could take Kerry, Hillary, Reid, Pelosi, and Biden with him.
