Progressive America

[Newt]

Right on Cue: We need more money to heal the wounds caused by Big Government.
Clinton proposes $500 million federal program to combat bullying

Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton on Thursday proposed a new $500 million federal grant program to fight bullying in schools, describing the problem as a crisis that threatens the academic progress and mental and emotional health of too many children.

States could use the money for a range of efforts, from teacher training to suicide prevention programs to hiring more counselors and psychologists. But to be eligible, they’d have to invest more themselves: They would get $4 in federal funds for every $1 in new resources they expend.

To qualify for the money, states also would have to pass “comprehensive” anti-bullying laws that address cyberbullying and verbal bullying, and that explicitly protect children from bullying on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity — the latter a lightning rod at a time of great division over the treatment of transgender children at school.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/ed ... story.html

[cris axtell/coal hill ken]

Big government and democrats are the biggest bullies around. They bully the states into doing what they want them to do.

[pabstman]

What politician wants to downsize the government? I hear about the debt we are in but no one mentions the debt number when Obama took office. Also a war in Iraq that was padding the pockets of our elected officials. We went into debt substantially for a battle we couldn't win. Or at least a more in debt interior motive.... Lets not be naïve guys we are being played regardless of who or what party they claim they are.
Maybe I'm and idiot and missing something but what I am not is jealous of the super rich or wealthy. Just can think for myself and keep an open mind, also not get wrapped into what my co workers talk about that they have no idea what they speak of. I've seen that a lot....

PLEASE NOTE THE 1 LARGE ISSUE WE FACE AS A COUNTRY AND LETS DISCUSS IT.
1. FOR ME IT IS WE ARE A VERY UNHEALTHY COUNTRY. PLEASE EXCUSE MY FIRST ISSUE SOMEONE ELSE NOTE ONE AND LETS DISCUSS. WE CAN COME BACK TO MINE.

[bluemouse]

Your explanation of the debt makes no sense. Let me spell google for you type in Obama debt.

[pabstman]

Mouse let me spell it out for you.
What was our debt amount when Obama took office?
Make sense to me, a simple question.
What happened to our economy around the same time due to deregulation?
I'm not sure where i confused anyone.

[bluemouse]

I see your spelling blame bush and use Obama numbers. Wonder why Clinton has not brought up the debt issue. The real national debt of over 20 trillion has no concern to a liberal minded person its just a number. You must be one of the five that got one of Obama's shovel ready jobs.

[Newt]

What politician wants to downsize the government? I hear about the debt we are in but no one mentions the debt number when Obama took office. Also a war in Iraq that was padding the pockets of our elected officials. We went into debt substantially for a battle we couldn't win. Or at least a more in debt interior motive.... Lets not be naïve guys we are being played regardless of who or what party they claim they are.
Maybe I'm and idiot and missing something but what I am not is jealous of the super rich or wealthy. Just can think for myself and keep an open mind, also not get wrapped into what my co workers talk about that they have no idea what they speak of. I've seen that a lot....

PLEASE NOTE THE 1 LARGE ISSUE WE FACE AS A COUNTRY AND LETS DISCUSS IT.
1. FOR ME IT IS WE ARE A VERY UNHEALTHY COUNTRY. PLEASE EXCUSE MY FIRST ISSUE SOMEONE ELSE NOTE ONE AND LETS DISCUSS. WE CAN COME BACK TO MINE.

OK! Discuss it rather than act like a Troll.

1.How are we unhealthy?
Drugs? We have open borders. The Clintons had a reputation for drug running while he was Governor of Arkansas.
That his why the hit list became newsworthy? I also read that Jeb Bush was involved in drugs also. Maybe he and Bill were partners.

Your response?

2. Any politician that is rumored to have a desire to down size government becomes the whipping boy and laughing stock of the Left and main stream media. He hates children, hates women, hates the poor, hates old folks, hates education.

3. I hear about the debt we are in but no one mentions the debt number when Obama took office.

That is your topic lets see some figures when Bush left office and when Obama is projected to leave office. Surely you know how to do a Google Search or do you just listen to CNN.

4. While you are at it how about doing a search on the economic growth of the country during first six years of the Bush administration, prior to democrat taking control of Congress.

5.Also a war in Iraq that was padding the pockets of our elected officials. We went into debt substantially for a battle we couldn't win.

Who in Congress voted for the Iraqi war? Hillary and most of the democrats and republicans voted in favor of the war.
Bush won the war! Obama and Hillary pulled out the troops and let it sink into ISIS control.
I know that Chaney and his old company were accused of profiting off the war.
I haven't seen any wikileaks emails that verify that assertion.
However we have seen many emails that prove the Clintons have taken money from every enemy and socalled friends of the USA.

Maybe you are too young to remember, but Bill sold/gave China weapons and computer technology that was illegal to transfer. China had no high speed computers necessary for space launches until Bill gave it away.


Back prior to Clinton the popular line of passive for folks upset about losing our industry to Asia was the line, they can never compete with our technological advantage. No problem, Bill just gave it away. Not a peep out of the MSM.
Of course the media is owned by the same companies who own the chip factories in China. They have pelenty of money to buy the favor of politicians.

Why are you jealous of the super rich or wealthy. Was Steve Jobs or Bill Gates born super rich or wealthy. The took advantage of the our freedom to develop and sell a product.
Was Bill and Hillary born super rich and wealthy, they took advantage of laws and risked going to prison. Fortunately for them they got involved with power brokers early, took risks that made both them and the power people richer.

While you are searching, Google Clark Clifford. He was another one of the Power Brokers who got involved in money laundering, got caught, but was "too sick", ugh powerful to go to jail.
Lets see if Bill and Hillary have reached that status. I'm betting they are.

Pabst, you are up lets see what you've got to add to the discussion.

[pabstman]

Mouse i dont care if the debt was caused by Bush or Clinton or Obama or whoever. Im just pointing out facts. Look at the real numbers and dont keep feeding off what someones conspiracy is leading you to believe. Yes Obama has added to our deficit. The first fiscal year is made up the year prior by that President and Congress.
On that same note where does Trump plan to cut taxes and cut our debt? Numbers dont add up, cmon guys surely this makes sense....

[bluemouse]

You want facts Obama has added more to the national debt than all of the presidents that came before him (all). Obama has created more adult fry cooks and burger flippers than real jobs. Obama has increased health cost for everybody and a fact since he started his lies my health care has gone up 50%. If I thought it worthy I would post his trial of lies and corruption. Here is a little riddle for you how can Obama making 400,000 a year afford a 9 million dollar home in Washington after he leaves office here is a hint he has not sold that many books. Trumps has said he will reduce taxes for the middle class the lying crook Clinton said she will raise them. Trump also said he will reduce corporate taxes to free up money to create jobs just like you Clinton has only said she will get the rich to pay their fair share. And just like you neither you or the liberals that feed you their lies has never explained what their fair share is, The liberals have you so confused you think its ok to crap on one shoe and wipe it off on the other and that's ok. I saw the liberals thought it was ok to beat up a homeless women in Ca for supporting Trump ,great crowd your hanging with. Last fact for the night if you vote for Clinton you are part of the problem and clueless.

[Newt]

Mouse i dont care if the debt was caused by Bush or Clinton or Obama or whoever. Im just pointing out facts. Look at the real numbers and dont keep feeding off what someones conspiracy is leading you to believe. Yes Obama has added to our deficit. The first fiscal year is made up the year prior by that President and Congress.
On that same note where does Trump plan to cut taxes and cut our debt? Numbers dont add up, cmon guys surely this makes sense....

Which facts have you provided?

Trump has promised to cut business taxes. That will bring trillions of dollars now being held by businesses in foreign banks back to America.
Trump has promised to cut regulations which will spark more small businesses. Small businesses provide more jobs to soak up the unemployed.
We don't know if he can fulfil his promises but we know Oama and Hillary's plans don't work.
What has Hillary promised? More taxes and more free stuff. More deadbeat illegals placed on subsistence as soon as they reach our shore. More free education. What good is a college degree in basket weaving if nobody uses baskets.

[pabstman]

Mouse you need to watch yourself. I don't call you liberal or conservative or a liar. I'm just having a discussion. What you state is your views and opinions of how Trump will do much better than Hillary and that is your opinion. I see different and don't agree with you.
Let me tell you this. The facts are there about the percentages wealthy people like Trump pay in taxes versus people like myself. I say, pay the same percentage as you and I do whether you make 50k a year or $1000000 a year.
Warren buffet has stated before our tax laws are out of line when he pays a less percentage than his secretary.....

We needed healthcare reform. To say the system we have is perfect is a lie. It needs adjusted. To me it is about supply and demand. If we weren't such an unhealthy country our healthcare cost would not be so expensive(Supply and Demand).

How the discussion of unhealthiness leads to Clinton being a drug lord is beyond me. We have a serious drug problem and most stems from narcotics, then leads to heroin. But beside the drug addiction issue we have, heart disease is worse. I say lets take better care of ourselves and change not only our own lives but someone else's.
MORE HEALTHY WE ALL ARE THE BETTER OFF WE ALL ARE! THAT ALONE WILL DRIVE HEALTH CARE COST DOWN.

[bluemouse]

You talk in circles pabstman where do you think all the drugs are coming from can you say open borders,clinton is for open borders, Your problem is you do not understand how insurance companies use actuary's to class premiums for insurance. You are right people who eat double whoppers and biggy fries three times a week and weight 350 lbs should pay more than people that are normal weight and take care of them selves. the aca if you don't know is not a health care plan its a tax .And before you assume I don't know what I am talking about I have been selling insurance since you were still pooping your pants.

[pabstman]

Narcotics i said! I can go tomorrow and tell my doc hey man i hurt my back and guess what. I get narcotics. Its not all from our borders.
Thjs is what I've been after all along, conversation. Explain to me how insurance works. Healthcare in my eys is just like anything else. Supply and demand. The less people need the healthcare the more the price will drop. Myself and most everyone i know cant carry the risk of not having health insurance. If something serious happened to me i'd go bankrupt. Why not have health care reform in place, learn and grow. Implement incentives for people that try healthier lifestyle choices.
We get healthy we all benefit.

[bluemouse]

Insurance is not supply and demand it called a risk, Home insurance, car insurance. life insurance and health insurance are all risk to insurance companies. Example if you buy a million dollar life policy and your healthy and its underwritten and you make the first payment and die a month later who took the risk and has to pay,

[Newt]

Pabst: "The facts are there about the percentages wealthy people like Trump pay in taxes versus people like myself. I say, pay the same percentage as you and I do whether you make 50k a year or $1000000 a year. "

Which of the candidates has been a Senator? Who made the tax laws? Wouldn't Hillary have responsibility as Senator to change the laws if they were unfair. Its Trumps fault that he was prosperous and obeyed the laws?
You indicated that you were in business. Do you obey the tax laws and pay what you owe or do you donate the government and extra ten or hundred thousand on April 15th.

Do you believe that it is beneficial for a community or country to give tax breaks to companies or individuals who use their money for humanitarian causes. Or if they expand their business to employ more people. The extra workers, made possible by the expansion in business, actually contributes more revenue to the community due toe more houses, more sales taxes, property taxes, and increase in property values.

Think about it, would you rather Trump build a huge motel in you home town or would you rather have a thousand new refugees come in from Syria? Trumps motel would immediately bring in more revenue from tourists. The refugees, if they were serious about becoming American citizens, and the government quit feeding them, could be a source of cheap labor. Their next generation they could become doctors and lawyers. That was the American Dream as symbolized by the statue of liberty. Unfortunately they have become pawns for crooked Hillary and her Cartel.