FLIP -OR-FLOP

[Rabbithoundjb]

Yep I'll take my chances with the guy who has had success over the proven failure you guys are supporting.

The height of stupidity, repeating the same thing expecting a different outcome. So vote Obama in again and see how the next 4 years look.

[bluegrass]

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=sh ... re%3Dshare

I don't know how to post a link but this is why I don't trust Romney. It's what the republican party had to say about him.

So you don't trust Romney because of what REPUBLICANS said about him...

What about what DEMOCRATS said about OBAMA?

Joe Biden said "The presidency is NOT a place for on the job training...Obama is not qualified to be president"
During the Democrat primaries in 2007 Bill Clinton accused the Obama campaign of "pulling out the race card against him"...Hillary said the same thing, and even said there needed to be debate about Obama's outrageous conduct during the campaign...

Numerous other Democrats have said things about Obama but for some reason THAT doesn't give you reason to pause...just when a Republican candidate has things said.


Why don't you just ADMIT you are a liberal and will vote that way? Be proud to be a part of the baby killing party...

[woods]

The things they are saying about him is the same thing I had questions about.first off. Second off you talk about baby killing Romney was pro choice in Mass. He signed assault weapon ban in Mass. On job creation he was 47th in Mass. His job approval was in the 30's in Mass. And if he was soo good as governor why did he only have one term why isn't Mass supporting him now? But bluegrass I guess these can't be reasons I don't vote for him huh?

[Rabbithoundjb]

Job creation was 50th when he became governor. Romney took the state from 1.5 billion in deficit to a surplus by spending cuts and closing corperate tax loopholes. Romney did not seek a second term. By the way when Romney was governor Mass. was #1 in the country in education. So Romney was once pro-chioce and now hes pro-life, Obama was once traditional marriage and now hes for same sex marriage. I guess you can vote where your morals fall.

[Newt]

Job creation was 50th when he became governor. Romney took the state from 1.5 billion in deficit to a surplus by spending cuts and closing corperate tax loopholes. Romney did not seek a second term. By the way when Romney was governor Mass. was #1 in the country in education. So Romney was once pro-chioce and now hes pro-life, Obama was once traditional marriage and now hes for same sex marriage. I guess you can vote where your morals fall.

What is it about liberals that they can't read straight nor visual the results of what they read.

We have a President that has been a failure by American standards in everything he has attempted versus
a Governor that has been a success at almost everything he has attempted.

We have a President that would not eat apple pie and ice cream if it was prepared by the opposing party but would eat crap if it was offered by America's enemy. He makes deals with Putin but scorns our traditional friends.

"The latest [dictator] to publicly announce his support for the commander-in-chief’s reelection bid was Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez, who this week assured he’d vote for Obama if he were from the United States. The America-bashing strongman made the announcement on state-owned television, saying “Obama is a good guy” and that if Obama was from Caracas, he’d surely return the favor by voting for Chavez.

Earlier in the year the government-official daughter of Cuban military dictator Raul Castro proclaimed her country’s support for Obama during a visit to the U.S. “I believe that Obama needs another opportunity and he needs greater support to move forward with his projects and with his ideas, which I believe come from the bottom of his heart,” Mariela Castro said during a cable news interview. ...

That brings us to Russia’s Vladimir Putin, who has eliminated most elections in his country, monopolized all major media and destroyed the political party system. ... In a letter to a major newspaper, the president of a group dedicated to expanding freedom around the world points out that under Putin there has been an “across-the-board crackdown on civil society.” The piece goes on to ask: “Will Obama stand up against Putin’s abuses?” Unlikely, now that the Russian dictator has extended his endorsement."

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[woods]

The assertion that Massachusetts under Romney ranked 47th out of 50 states in job growth is true, and the Romney campaign has not disputed its accuracy. If the District of Columbia is included, Massachusetts’ rank was 48th. Over the four-year period 2003 to 2006, Massachusetts jobs grew by 1.26 percent, well behind the national median of 4.84 percent.

Massachusetts law requires the state to balance its budget every year. Romney had no choice but to sign a balanced budget every year.

Nonetheless, the Bay State can experience deficits when revenues come in lower than expected. This happened just before Romney took office, forcing his administration to implement emergency cuts and work with lawmakers to close a $3 billion gap during his first year.

Romney’s successor faced a similar predicament. According to news reports from late 2006, the GOP candidate warned incoming Gov. Deval Patrick (D) that the state could face a deficit of between $400 million and $1 billion because of lower-than-projected revenues.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Can you guy's --post any thing That Romney will do For America.Just something--------->That he has not Changed direction's On ------->you don't know what Romney --will do .

[woods]

Here is something he will do for America Pine Mtn

http://blogs.providencejournal.com/ri-t ... phony.html

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Thank's ----Wood's

Every one who is Not- in A Coma know's --Romney --will say what ever he need's to say and Change Back tomorrow....

And if some one makes Him Mad heck he Will run Off to Mexico--or China with all his Money and factories..

OBamas -is Not THe Best President -in History -But,He is the best President for this history-at this Time.....Romney -is Nothing Just- a Rich spoiled Brat --wanting His name in the HIstory book's...

His last attempt at Governing ---was about like --DAN QUALE---But -hey if you have plenty money a -solid Pension-PLan--your family don't need --Social Security--or Medicare.. You are not sick -


Just fall- Right In and Vote For Him---

[Rabbithoundjb]

At least you posted a link. Sounds just like PMB an independent even right of center and then turns around and hits all of the lefts talking points. I spealialy like the part at the end where he has the gall to say Obama is honest and credible which makes him dishonest and not credible.

[woods]

Rabbit

The thing that got me is that except for the part about Obama it's almost word for word what the republican party said about him during the primary. You can't believe everything you read and I don't take my opinions from what people say. I believe it because that is what I have seen from him. It's the ???? I have been asking from day one. That's why I can't support him. But everybody has a right to their own opinion. I don't see the world thru rose color glasses, but I don't trust Romney bottom line.

[Pine Lakes]

Thank's ----Wood's

Every one who is Not- in A Coma know's --Romney --will say what ever he need's to say and Change Back tomorrow....

And if some one makes Him Mad heck he Will run Off to Mexico--or China with all his Money and factories..

OBamas -is Not THe Best President -in History -But,He is the best President for this history-at this Time.....Romney -is Nothing Just- a Rich spoiled Brat --wanting His name in the HIstory book's...

His last attempt at Governing ---was about like --DAN QUALE---But -hey if you have plenty money a -solid Pension-PLan--your family don't need --Social Security--or Medicare.. You are not sick -


Just fall- Right In and Vote For Him---

Actually Rufus if you look at the beginnings of Romney's term as Governer and Obama's term as President you will find both came into office with large hurdles to overcome. The difference is Obama, while having a democrat majority in both houses, failed to move this country in the right direction. He's actually made it worse economically and in my opinion morally as well. Romney took office in Massachusetts and inherited the state arguably in it's worst condition in its long history. When he left office it wasn't where he or anyone else wanted it to be but it was dramatically better, especially in terms of employment and education. He won over an inherantly democratic state. Like I've stated before, Obama isn't running against Romney, he's running against his own record and it's a very poor one. If Obama had any credibillity whatsoever he would run away with this campaign.

Rufus you've been around long enough to know there are opposite sides to everything. You stating we should "Just fall-Right In and Vote For Him" is ignorant. Actually, if you "stood on solid ground" you wouldn't face the opposition on this board that you do. Politcally you would have to agree that you fall to the left(alot usually) and that has its issues morally with those of us who take that into consideration when voting. The President has a poor voting record on moral issues also, atleast from most Christian point's of view. Please don't bring dominionism into this conversation. The men who wrote our Constitution and Declaration of Independence and fought for this country's freedom were predominantly, if not entirely, of the same faith. Dominionism is a word for atheists looking to rid this country of its moral obligations that made us the greatest country in history. The difference between our country's beginning and now is greed, corruption, and immorallity. Our economic state has followed those vices. It's time for a change but know this, if Romney gets elected and fails as Obama has over the course of 4 years, I will not be any more tolerant because he is a Republican.

I'm trying a more civil approach in our discussions. This board has become a battleground where personal attacks are common and I don't want to be part of that problem anymore.

[woods]

Very good post Pine Lakes. I can agree with what you said.

[Rabbithoundjb]

Hey woods if you want 4 more years of the country in decline vote for Obama because we already know thats what we are going to get or you can take a chance that with a new face will come a better direction. Tell me what has Romney done that he did not succeed at. While your at it tell me what (in detail) is Obamas grand plan for the next 4 years.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

First Rabbit

You are not Taking a Chance Voting for Romney -No chance at all Romney has said -what he would do,Kill the economy send Job's to China,,Cut Social Security And Kill Medicare --give a 20 % tax cut to the Elite -and let you pay for it.

You or America will have no Chance.

By-Chip
Rufus you've been around long enough to know there are opposite sides to everything. You stating we should "Just fall-Right In and Vote For Him" is ignorant. Actually, if you "stood on solid ground" you wouldn't face the opposition on this board that you do. Politcally you would have to agree that you fall to the left(alot usually) and that has its issues morally with those of us who take that into consideration when voting. The President has a poor voting record on moral issues also, atleast from most Christian point's of view. Please don't bring dominionism into this conversation. The men who wrote our Constitution and Declaration of Independence and fought for this country's freedom were predominantly, if not entirely, of the same faith. Dominionism is a word for atheists looking to rid this country of its moral obligations that made us the greatest country in history. The difference between our country's beginning and now is greed, corruption, and immorallity. Our economic state has followed those vices. It's time for a change but know this, if Romney gets elected and fails as Obama has over the course of 4 years, I will not be any more tolerant because he is a Republican.

I'm trying a more civil approach in our discussions. This board has become a battleground where personal attacks are common and I don't want to be part of that problem anymore.


Chip
First I agree with you thing's get heated here -and I don't like it either -But -Look at your post --You say the Left has it's issue's with moral's--That is not true --The Right is the one with the Moral issues --In truth Both have Moral issues--But Republican's --claim to be The party of Relegion --and not one support Relegion--and You say don't use The term Domionionism----->and go on to say it is a term used by -Atheist--looking to rid the country of Moral's--->the term is a Republican -term it come's from Republican's teaching's that the White Male shall reign over every thing on earth and that women have a soul so small they are not considered to have one ..You cannot describe the Republican Party and not- use that term.--like you cannot describe Romney -with out --using --the statement's--anti-American and Un-Patriotic--Because he has expplained that is just him.

I agree that our Country has developed into what it is Because of Greed -corruption-- Immorality----

But-If Romney -get's Elected It will be a Direct Result of Republican's- turning on America-Romney --has said plain and simple -he will ship job's to China -He will Cut taxes for corporation's and the Elite -and load that expense on Working Middle class and lower invcome worker's.
He will promote Legislation to squelch Women's Right's to the point -that to have an abortion -to save their life -would be Considered Murder--
Actually every thing America stand's for Romney -is against--He is not a Relegious Person he Belong's to a cult -Not My term Republican' say that-But yet they support Him,
He is No Patriot--His word's Not Mine -None of His Family has ever defended America-THey did However leave and go to Mexico -Because they did not agree with America's law's -And when The revolution's started in Mexico they ran back.
So there is no question in if Romney will fail -he has said he what he will do -and it's all bad for America.He will disclose no plan's -to do anything -Because -No one would vote for Him--He has done Nothing --Nor Has he said nothing to make any one think he would help America -so if you start out Knowing -He is wrong what is the point-in trying him -4-year's.

I agree that we can have a more civil discussion ,And I know that you are a good man -a good family man -who work's and tries to better your self .---I just don't understand how --some one -can not see what is so obvious--->