Shooting at ct. Elementary School

Newt · Post by **Newt** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:29 pm

Pine Mt Beagles wrote:And Another turd float's up.

Wonder why Barry, Harry, and Nancy are shedding tears for the six and seven years old and no tears for the one day olds that die in the trash cans in abortion clinics? Obama voted against allowing those babies to be rescued.
Is that "turd" worthy.

Pine Mt Beagles · Post by **Pine Mt Beagles** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:05 pm

You should ask your self -that question---
Newt

Since Republican's -are the one's who cause most abortion's after all.
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Re: Shooting at ct. Elementary School
by weekendbeagler » Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:51 am

..................The kid was a " Gamer" he sat on the couch and played shoot em up video games day in and day out. A lot of kids now adays live in a video game, movie fantasy land. The real world simply isn't real to them they can't function in it.......

Weak -Beag
Your post was spot on until this point .
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..The lefty's will blame the guns and scream for more gun control.

No --This President has been the best one for Gun owner's in a long time.--But, No doubt some -On both sides will bring up gun control.

I blame hollywood and the parents. You can't tell me the drug infested punk's parents didn't know the punk was wacked out of his skull. His own brother didn't want anything to do with him. ...........................Pray For The Families And The Country......................

That is a fact -sorry azz Parent's, are a big part of the problem,one Parent home's are far two common these day's.

Chuck your %100 right. Bring GOD back in the schools.
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I don't think Chucky is right not even close
Having God in school is a good thing---But-who's God do you want in school---> Do you want them taught about-->Catholicism -Judism-Budism-Mormonism-What -My God never left school ,he is every where ,and I ,don't want some one else teaching my child about -their -God,That is my Job.

You guy's are quick to yell about personal responsibility ,Yet you want some one else ,to teach your children about God,If I felt that way I would send mine to a Christian academy.

Religion is a divisive subject -By nature ,in this county there are at least ,a dozen ,different denomination's .

To blame this tragedy on God or lack there of is insane.

Chuck Prather · Post by **Chuck Prather** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:05 pm

PMB I said prayer in the home also! Quit being a moron and only reading what you want to read! You are ignorant!

golden acres · Post by **golden acres** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:34 pm

Chuck my friend please do not state that libs are the reason that prayer is no prevelant as it should be because I considerate myself a moderate liberal and i just got done doing 16 hrs with the Boy Scouts on a camp out and 6 hours with my youth group. Politics need God, God does not need politics. I know many Repuplicans and Liberals that do not know God. Shootings like this are senseless and not to be made political. I actually cried when I heard the news pulled over to pray.

Rabbithoundjb · Post by **Rabbithoundjb** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:08 pm

This is a tragedy but tell me golden acres which party was it at this years convention that was fighting over taking god out of their platform. I'm not religious and I know the answer to that. Pretending because you try and do the right thing gives the people you support a pass for the policies they push is exactly the reason the country is in the shape its in.

golden acres · Post by **golden acres** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:26 pm

So if the repuplican I voted for in the past while appointing supreme court justice did not reverse Roe Vs Wade. Why is that i already know the answer. It would be political suicide and both parties are more worried about getting relected then doing what is right for the country. Till people figure out that it is not one or the other creating our problems in this country. But i do not believe that these school shooting are related to politics. Maybe stupidy or sickness well maybe it is closer to politics than what I think.

Chuck Prather · Post by **Chuck Prather** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:24 am

I believe these shootings are a combination of things. Poor parenting, kids being left at home to take care of themselves, NO PRAYER at HOME or SCHOOL! Kids being raised by XBox and Nintendo and Play Station. I know its senseless to post how I feel on here but you all that do not see the truth just think back to when you were raised and in school and compare to modern day times! We were taught different at home and school! Have a nice day!

Rabbithoundjb · Post by **Rabbithoundjb** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:57 am

So what does R vs.W have to do with prayer in school or pledge allegience or national ahthem. The only difference in the parties on abortion is simple, one wants the abortion recipient to fund it and the other thinks tax payers who have nothing to do with the discision or the getting pregnant to fund it. I personnelly don't agree with it but its not my discision nor do I think its my responsibility to fund it.

I agree with you Chuck there are lots of reasoms but mostly laws that strip away structure and responsibilty and accountability.

beaglehandler · Post by **beaglehandler** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:04 am

WELL I GUESS THE ONLY WAY TO GET A POINT TO SOME IS KEEP REPEATING IT UNTIL THEY HEAR IT OR GET IT. PLEASE READ WITH OPEN MINDS AND NOT POLITICAL BIAS. THE ELECTED DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU OR ME, THEY HAVE NOT CARED ABOUT YOU OR ME FOR SOME TIME NOW AND PROBABLY NEVER WILL. THAT GOES FOR BOTH PARTIES AND THOSE IN THE MIDDLE. UNTIL YOU BECOME A ASSET THAT THEY CAN BENEFIT FROM YOU ARE NOTHING. THEY WORK HARDER FOR REELECTION AND SPECIAL INTEREST THEN FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ELECTED THEM. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE. TAKE A BIG DRINK AND OPEN YOUR EYES. DEMOCRATS DO THIS AND THAT, ARE FOR THIS AND THAT, AND ARE AGAINST THIS AND THAT. THIS PRESIDENT IS FROM WHERE EVER AND HE IS RUINING THIS COUNTRY, HE SPENDING MONEY LIKE A DRUNK SAILOR ON SHORE LEAVE. THAT NANCY AND HARRY AND THIS PERSON AND THAT PERSON HAS STOOD FOR THIS AND STOOD FOR THAT, THEY ARE AGAINST GOD AND ARE FOR ABORTION. WELL AT THE SAME TIME LET'S NOT FORGET THAT WAR KILLS ALSO AND THAT THEY COST MONEY AND THAT WHEN A SOLDIER RETURNS HE NEEDS SUPPORT AND COUNSELING AND HOSPITAL BEDS AND THE BACKING OF THOSE WHO SENT HIM TO WAR. SO UNTIL THE WAR IS PAID FOR DON'T JUST BLAME THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION FOR EVERYTHING, THEY DID INHERIT QUITE ABIT, SO THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS JUST REMEMBER THAT NO ONE IS PERFECT, THAT BOTH PARTIES HAVE THEIR FAULTS AND ALOT MORE FAULTS THAN GOOD. LET'S NOT FORGET THE GREED OF POLITICIANS. PLEASE TO DON'T FORGET THAT IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO RAISE A CHILD OR TO LOOK FOR THE VILLAGE IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KEEP ARGUING BETWEEN YOURSELVES, THE ELECTED BENEFIT FROM IT.

Newt · Post by **Newt** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:33 am

An ever growing mass of children are being raised with no parental, or peer, or official guidance on things like responsible behavior, industriousness, true compassion, respect for others, rejection of idle pursuits.

We have made narcissism an accepted and celebrated life plan. We have handed off the job of parenting and mentoring to the basest of commercial interest. What we got is more and more children raised with nothing but mind-numbing 'music,' stupid (and violent) video games and graphic pornography as their vision of real life.

There should be no surprise that so many of these weak minds graduate from their artificial reality into the real world. I see nothing but more and more such instances in the future.

Banning the guns will not stop this process. IF there were no such thing as gunpowder (suppose the chemical reaction didn't work) the world would have found some other means of efficiently killing enemies - and the video games of today would employ those means in their artificial universe, and the druggies on the street would still kill with those implements.

Banning guns is not the answer. The only answer is to repair the cultural damage that has been inflicted on us in the past 6 decades.

Newt · Post by **Newt** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:45 am

Far Left Groups Defeated Connecticut Mental Health Protection Laws Just Months Before Shooting

Posted by Jim Hoft

Saturday, December 15, 2012, 12:46 PM

Months before the Newtown massacre far left groups defeated a Connecticut mental health protections law. Counter Contempt reported:

Here’s a fact you might not know – Connecticut is one of only SIX states in the U.S. that doesn’t have a type of “assisted outpatient treatment” (AOT) law (sometimes referred to as “involuntary outpatient treatment”). There’s no one standard for these types of laws, but (roughly speaking) these are laws that allow for people with mental illness to be forcibly treated BEFORE they commit a serious crime.

Whereas previous legal standards held that the mentally ill cannot be institutionalized or medicated until they harm someone or themselves, or until they express an immediate intent to do so, AOT laws (again, roughly speaking) allow for preventativeinstitutionalization or forced medication (I highly recommend reading the data cited in the link I provided in this paragraph, especially regarding what is known as “first episode psychosis”).

AOT laws vary state-by-state, and often bear the name of a person murdered by an untreated mentally ill person (“Kendra’s Law” in New York, “Laura’s Law” in California, etc.).

Earlier this year, Connecticut considered passing an AOT law (and a weak one, at that), and it failed, due to protests from “civil liberties” groups.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/12 ... -shooting/

PM and the ACLU is looking out for you.

beaglehandler · Post by **beaglehandler** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:00 pm

And this persons mother was a gun collector, a survivalist and taught her son the same things. Even though she and her ex were divorced for years she spoke badly of him in front of and to the children and did what she could to not allow contact with their father. The ACLU went after the city of Indianapolis a few years ago to get a mentally ill persons guns returned to him. The next day he killed his mother and gunned down Officer Jake Laird. We had a employee threaten a supervisor and was fired. He then threatened to kill the supervisor and a few others. By law he has the right to freedom of speech. For the next two weeks the company paid off duty police officers to sit in the parking lot. Stop and be realistic about this an all the other shootings that have taken place in this country starting in a college clock tower in 1966. This is a random act of insanity. No one wants it to happen or plans for it to happen and there is little we can really do about it. On that note remember one thing you can do. If you hear someone make a crazy statement about shooting a place or person up, making random threats against innocent people or just doing things that like buying body armor, or buying large quantities of ammo and not a avid shooter then report it. SAFE IS ALWAYS BETTER THAN SORRY.

Newt · Post by **Newt** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:49 pm

When faced with existential questions about life and death, the nature of Man, the existence of Evil, how to deal with grief, the root causes of violence in society, etc, we gratefully ask The State for solutions.

Our premise is that if there is a PROBLEM we can LEGISLATE IT out of existence. 2000 years of the family unit, organized religion,criminology, theology and philosophy, and FINALLY THE LIGHTBULB GOES OFF, and people turn their lonely eyes to a benevolent State.

I find it helpful to keep a photograph near me of the specific people within the vast State Apparatus who are charged with solving the problem for The People. It energizes me and encourages me to see Mr. Bohner, President Obama, Mr Reid and Mr. Holder.

I look forward to the day when State Solutions are comprehensive enough to make all this human ugliness disappear.

FORWRD!

Pine Mt Beagles · Post by **Pine Mt Beagles** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:19 pm

Re: Shooting at ct. Elementary School
by Newt » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:33 am

An ever growing mass of children are being raised with no parental, or peer, or official guidance on things like responsible behavior, industriousness, true compassion, respect for others, rejection of idle pursuits.

We have made narcissism an accepted and celebrated life plan. We have handed off the job of parenting and mentoring to the basest of commercial interest. What we got is more and more children raised with nothing but mind-numbing 'music,' stupid (and violent) video games and graphic pornography as their vision of real life.

There should be no surprise that so many of these weak minds graduate from their artificial reality into the real world. I see nothing but more and more such instances in the future.

Banning the guns will not stop this process. IF there were no such thing as gunpowder (suppose the chemical reaction didn't work) the world would have found some other means of efficiently killing enemies - and the video games of today would employ those means in their artificial universe, and the druggies on the street would still kill with those implements.

Banning guns is not the answer. The only answer is to repair the cultural damage that has been inflicted on us in the past 6 decades.
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-Good ---->post Newt .Except The-6-Decades Part Of Course.

No Gun ,will ever kill a person, if left alone,,,,,,Gun's Don't Kill People -People Kill People --->

God made Man --->The most destructive Animal on the Planet,,Man -has never --found anthing --They did not want to Kill--or--Change -in some way.

I have wondered ,For Many Year's,,Did God Make Man ,to be so destructive ,or ,did he just give ManKind ,a Free will ,and turn Him loose.
After all God Made Man in His immage.Right.

begles · Post by **begles** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:55 pm

Aint we a bunch with our opinions, and thats just what they are. Always wanting to blame someone else. Stand up and be responsable for your self and teach that to your kids. You guys can`t say anything nice with out saying something bad about someone else. My children and grandchildren know what disaplend is and they know they have to stand good for it.