Iran nuke deal: naivete or treason ?

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Iran nuke deal: naivete or treason ?

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I'll bet every dime l make for the rest of my life that Iran has no intention of honoring any deal Obama proposes. The number one trouble making nation on earth will stop at nothing to get the bomb. Any "deal" will tie our hands, and future administrations. Iran, Cuba, Isis,Bengazi ect.I wonder whose side this president is on.Its becoming obvious that the "progressives" are rooting for the other side. They have a real problem with America being a world super power. The middle east is going to be a lot more unstable. I just hope and pray that this doesn't lead us to a third world war.

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You need to ask your self why USA put Iran leaders in place . Obama is just a puppet he told what to say and do same with republicans Corporations Run the USA .
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Where are all the other countries in all this. Germany, England, China, Japan, Spain, many world class leaders are sure quiet awaiting the USA to do something about ISIS.

I'm tired of seeing our sons coming home at night in flag draped body bagged cheap metal caskets while all theirs are on vacation somewhere doing something interesting.

I don't agree with Obama much, but letting ISIS kill those not willing to fight back awaiting us is about time.

We don't need to be the Worlds policemen.

History points out over and over since back to 750 BC that that strategy is the beginning of a countries downfall as it always stretches them out too far in many ways, financially and morally is only two.

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Alabama John wrote:Where are all the other countries in all this. Germany, England, China, Japan, Spain, many world class leaders are sure quiet awaiting the USA to do something about ISIS.

I'm tired of seeing our sons coming home at night in flag draped body bagged cheap metal caskets while all theirs are on vacation somewhere doing something interesting.

I don't agree with Obama much, but letting ISIS kill those not willing to fight back awaiting us is about time.

We don't need to be the Worlds policemen.

History points out over and over since back to 750 BC that that strategy is the beginning of a countries downfall as it always stretches them out too far in many ways, financially and morally is only two.
Yep people over here burning the flag Isis is working USA came out is CIA paper under freedom of information act .
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Yes, I agree that the U.S. should not be the world's police force. But I think it's very dangerous to ignore the rest of the planet's problem's.Self preservation is the first law of nature. Our government is unwilling to secure the border, and take ISIS seriously. Read history, WW1 and WW2 we tried to ignore it until we had no choice. I believe that "sleeper " cells of terror groups are here, we may end up fighting them in our own cities, and towns. Thank God for the 2nd amendment!

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The Republican Party is ,A group of Traitors,,who hate Every thing about America but,it's MONEY,,They are nothing more than ,Traitors,Thieves,Cut Throats ,Murders,Who do not Care about America or it's Citizens,,and They tell you every Day.

47 Republican Senators Just Committed Treason
Posted on March 9, 2015

A story today from Reuters, reports that 47 United States Senators have set a letter to the leaders of Iran warning them about negotiating a nuclear pact with Barack Obama, the President of the United States. Here are the opening paragraphs of that story.

“WASHINGTON, March 9 (Reuters) – Republican senators warned Iran on Monday that any nuclear deal made with U.S. President Barack Obama could last only as long as he remains in office, in an unusual intervention into U.S. foreign policy-making.

The letter, signed by 46 U.S. senators, says Congress plays a role in ratifying international agreements and points out that Obama will leave office in January 2017, while many in Congress will remain in Washington long after that.

“We will consider any agreement regarding your nuclear-weapons program that is not approved by the Congress as nothing more than an executive agreement between President Obama and Ayatollah Khamenei,” the letter read.

“The next president could revoke such an executive agreement with the stroke of a pen and future Congresses could modify the terms of an agreement at any time,” it read.

The letter, first reported by Bloomberg News, followed a speech to a joint meeting of Congress last week by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who warned that the United States was negotiating a “bad deal” with Tehran.” Story Link

In my opinion these Senators have committed treason to their oaths of office to uphold the Constitution of the United States and have taken an all too public step that has no precedent, in U.S. history. The power to negotiate foreign policy is vested in the President by the Constitution. While the power to approve treaties once “negotiated” does lie with the Senate.

What these Senators have done without legislation blatantly interferes with the President’s power before the fact and that severely undercuts the President from conducting his Constitutional role in foreign affairs. Below is a section from a discussion of Article II by a former Federal Judge from the 9th Appellate Circuit. He is predominantly a libertarian.

“Article II of the U.S. Constitution begins by declaring that
“the executive Power shall be vested in a President of the
United States of America.”

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Pine Mt Beagles wrote:The Republican Party is ,A group of Traitors,,who hate Every thing about America but,it's MONEY,,They are nothing more than ,Traitors,Thieves,Cut Throats ,Murders,Who do not Care about America or it's Citizens,,and They tell you every Day.

47 Republican Senators Just Committed Treason
Posted on March 9, 2015

A story today from Reuters, reports that 47 United States Senators have set a letter to the leaders of Iran warning them about negotiating a nuclear pact with Barack Obama, the President of the United States. Here are the opening paragraphs of that story.

“WASHINGTON, March 9 (Reuters) – Republican senators warned Iran on Monday that any nuclear deal made with U.S. President Barack Obama could last only as long as he remains in office, in an unusual intervention into U.S. foreign policy-making.

The letter, signed by 46 U.S. senators, says Congress plays a role in ratifying international agreements and points out that Obama will leave office in January 2017, while many in Congress will remain in Washington long after that.

“We will consider any agreement regarding your nuclear-weapons program that is not approved by the Congress as nothing more than an executive agreement between President Obama and Ayatollah Khamenei,” the letter read.

“The next president could revoke such an executive agreement with the stroke of a pen and future Congresses could modify the terms of an agreement at any time,” it read.

The letter, first reported by Bloomberg News, followed a speech to a joint meeting of Congress last week by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who warned that the United States was negotiating a “bad deal” with Tehran.” Story Link

In my opinion these Senators have committed treason to their oaths of office to uphold the Constitution of the United States and have taken an all too public step that has no precedent, in U.S. history. The power to negotiate foreign policy is vested in the President by the Constitution. While the power to approve treaties once “negotiated” does lie with the Senate.

What these Senators have done without legislation blatantly interferes with the President’s power before the fact and that severely undercuts the President from conducting his Constitutional role in foreign affairs. Below is a section from a discussion of Article II by a former Federal Judge from the 9th Appellate Circuit. He is predominantly a libertarian.

“Article II of the U.S. Constitution begins by declaring that
“the executive Power shall be vested in a President of the
United States of America.”
Once again I'll give you the truth, but it won't matter because you can't see anything but Obama's abdomen. It's called checks and balances. If one man, who's office is supposed to constitute one third of a government, drafts an agreement with anyone without it being approved by the other 2 branches, then he is a dictator. That is exactly what Obama would like to be. You however, are a dictastor which is a little different than what Obama wants to be, but is exactly what he wants you to be. You're doing an excellent job of it by the way.

Here's a brief definition of the president's powers. Not just Obama, any president(just so you, a white man from the hills of KY, don't pull the race card that you liberals like to use so often). "The Constitution explicitly assigns to the president the power to sign or veto legislation, command the armed forces, ask for the written opinion of his Cabinet, convene or adjourn Congress, grant reprieves and pardons, and receive ambassadors. With the approval of two-thirds and one-half of the House of Representatives and the Senate, respectively, the president may make treaties and appoint Article III judges and some executive branch officers, and if there is a Senate recess, he may make temporary appointments."

So in actuality, your wonderful president is not only abusing his powers, but knowingly violating the Constitution of the United States. No big surprise to those of us without blinders on. Keep drinking the coolaid and making yourself look like a left winged, American hating, communist if you wish. I find your stupidity entertaining.

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really funny clown you bring up news thats six months old. Obabbler and lurch have had 4 extentions with Iran and still have no deal. The leaders of Iran are playing obabbler for the weak slacker he is and nothing good will come from dealing with Iran. Except more terror support around the world.

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by bluemouse » Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:16 am

really funny clown you bring up news thats six months old. Obabbler and lurch have had 4 extentions with Iran and still have no deal. The leaders of Iran are playing obabbler for the weak slacker he is and nothing good will come from dealing with Iran. Except more terror support around the world.

Bluemouse,,,

President Obama,,,

Has done More For YOU AND YOUR DO NOTHING FAMILY THAN YOUR ELITIST REPUBLICANS EVER HAVE ,,as well as America,,,

Could you just once ,,post something with A tiny part of TRUTH TO IT I have not read A post from you Republicans,,that did not prove to be nothing but,,Lies,,

All you do is Lie and Deny,,,

Over 60- Straight Months of Job Creation,,

Small businesses growing at A Record Pace.

Stock Market setting Records,,,,Helping everyone's Retirement .

Just to name A few,of The Many positive things this Administration has done for You and America,,,Not one word about anything this President has done That saved America from the Worst Depression,you Republicans have inflicted.

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All lies again from a obabbler clown.

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PMB you lie. Less people in the workforce now then when Obama took office. It's called quantitative easing, the government printing money and dumping it in the market. It has nothing to do with actual economic growth in fact if the economy was growing you would have no need for quantitative easing. PMB your a sheeeeeeeeeeple!!!!!

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