The Real Reason Republican's Are Pushing America Over Cliff

[Rabbithoundjb]

Just as I expected more empty claims from an empty anti american leftist.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Extreme right wing nut.To give you a compliment on New Year's Day.

[Bunnyblaster]

Thanks for another illiterate answer from someone who has no backbone and slings his opinions around like they are facts just because it was a fleeting thought that passed through your head. You have not once backed up anything you say against a question or argument I have confronted you with. And I love how you name call like you are still in the 1st grade because that fits in with how most dems deal with a situation they can't handle with intelligent thought.

I wanna call you out and see if you really are a man. You can disagree with me all you want and that's fine. Are you man enough to apologize for calling me names?? Because I have never called you anything besides your screen name so I would think I deserve the same respect in return. And trust me it's not because my skins that thin or because it hurts my feelings I just wanna see if you are man enough to admit you are wrong.


Oh and as far as for spending you are correct the dems didn't start a war because they don't have the stones to stand up for our country but they do have the gall to take credit for protecting it after the fact and killing bin laden on the heels and work of everyone before them. They did however pass the healthcare bill that we will never be able to afford and if you want proof just look at every other country in the world with government health care. Not one of them is sustainable unless services are rationed and even beyond that you have people coming here to get health care and pay out of their own pockets because they're government system can't get them the help they need when they need it. But you keep on voting to support birth control for those that don't know how to keep their pants on and then pay for the abortion they need when they are too irresponsible to remember to take their pill. Not to mention we'll probably have to cover all std's for free sometime soon because that would only be fair too right. Personal responsibility.........you don't even know what those 2 words mean when put together.

OH, OH, but wait I'd like to hear more about your work history since you like to make fun of the fact that I work for my father in law. How many years of actual work do you have under your belt. Or was the story true about you getting hurt and suing so you could sit in a chair and collect a paycheck????? Come on big guy, put your money where your mouth is cause I'm guessing you don't have enough to pay for the garbage you spew.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Bunny Blaster

Personal Responsibility,,,That is funny coming from you.


Have you spent all you Christmas Bonus you got from your Father in Law.

You are Sad.

I guess your father in Law pay's for your Birth control,,,,,At least if I was Him I would.

As for My History --It's My History,,,Get out and get your own,you are still young, at just 34 your life is just beginning ,I would suggest you change your politic's -and I don't mean change to Democrat ,I mean support America ,You simply cannot support either party 100 % all the time ,Because they are both wrong ,at time's, you just have to pick which time that is and for the last decade Republican's have been wrong.

[Bunnyblaster]

Nope sorry to say no Christmas bonus. I only got what I was told I would based on the work and hours I agreed to put in.......funny how that works huh??

As for your history I'd probably keep it under wraps too so you don't completely lose face in front of all the people you preach to on here.

Oh, and no free the birth control either. What we did use in the past I did pay for once again out of my own pocket. I didn't expect someone else to take care of something that was my responsibility because we could have always used abstinence.....although I know that term doesn't even exist in your world. Once again, people should be responsible for the choices they make not everyone else.

And no I'm not 100% on one side unlike you.

It is funny to watch you flail about trying to take focus away from real questions you can't answer tho.........you learn well young skywalker.

[beaglehandler]

why won't everyone who argues these stupid meaningless topic stop and think that nobody is right and your are a bunch of idiots for doing this. i am not a dem or rep and don't believe in god, easter bunny or santa claus. i do believe that both political parties are as worthless as teet on a boar hog. the rep think the best way to run the country is to help the rich and the wealth will trickle down, that it is ok for Haliburton and other big companies with government contracts to move outside the usa and still get tax payer dollars and not pay a penny of tax on it, that anyone who doesn't agree with them is anti american, that it is ok to use your elected office for financial gain. the dem think we should be socialistic and everyone regardless if they are contributing to the pot or not should get an equal share. then if you get past that you have a war that needs to be paid for, financial disaster that needs to be paid, housing market collapse that needs to be corrected, about a billion jobs lost. so then you can go even farther and say who is to blame for all of this mess. well lets see. the war was started by a rep who didn't know anything other than how to be an idiot, then you have a guy who likes to smoke cigars and be serviced by Monica who thinks everyone should have a home whether or not they have a means to pay for it, then you have the greedy bankers who are handing out junk unsecured loans on over valued houses like a drug dealer on a Chicago street corner, then the economy gets so bad that cars and houses are not selling, companies are sending work out of the country for cheap labor, people are losing their jobs, the government needs to take care of unemployment benefits, after all we did pay into that system as workers. So now who do we blame for this mess. I don't know about you but I blame both sides of the aisle. So let me finish by saying this again. I work for a company who let 285 people go in one day. To get the work done and the product to the customers they hired about 10 people to do the work of the 285 that were let go. Those 10 people unwrap parts brought in from China, inspected them, stamp made in the USA on the good parts, throw all the bad parts in the scrap steal dumpster, repackage the parts and ship them to the customers. The company needs only 2% of the parts coming from China to be good to make it profitable. Since stamping made in the USA is considered a step in the manufacturing process it is legal to do so even though the parts are made in China. So while 8 women are doing all of this 2 guys are dumping the bad parts and destroying all evidence of the parts coming from China. After all we couldn't let our customers know that we are getting these cheap parts from China and selling them as made in house parts. Now please open your eyes and see it is time to stop all this stupid arguing and fix the problem. The only way to fix the problem is very simple. Each and every election we must vote out each and every incumbent. We must not do this just one time but every time. Don't let politicians get comfortable. I have said it before and will say it again. Each and every politician works harder to keep his seat then his does for the good of the country, state, county, city or town.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Since stamping made in the USA is considered a step in the manufacturing process it is legal to do so even though the parts are made in China. So while 8 women are doing all of this 2 guys are dumping the bad parts and destroying all evidence of the parts coming from China-
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-That is interestng ,There is an old saying you can learn somethingevery day.


And ,i believe,That America will never be like it was before the last Republican Admnistrtion ,Because of the level of division creaed by ,that administration and carried forward by the 112 Th congress ,the divide in this country is severe ,But The divide is not where every one say's it is ,it's not between the elite and the middleclass,he divide is between the middle class and the Middle class ,The low income earner's know what is going on.The elite know what is going on they are creating this divide.Until The middle class stop's fighting back and forth they will continue to be controled by,the Elite Plutocrat's and the Low income voter's.Both end's are fighting the middle.

[Newt]

Obama unfroze the raise via E.O. they re- froze it..

House votes to freeze congressional, federal worker pay

Posted by Ed O'Keefe on January 1, 2013 at 6:55 pm

This post has been updated.

The House of Representatives is poised to vote as early as tonight on a bill addressing a series of tax increases and spending cuts taking affect this week. But first lawmakers voted on a plan to freeze the salaries of lawmakers and federal employees.

Despite Democratic objections, the bill passed 287 to 129, with 55 Democrats voting with Republicans to approve the measure.

House Democrats charged that the vote to freeze salaries was intended to provide political cover for conservative Republicans planning to vote against the fiscal cliff bill passed early Tuesday by the Senate.

The fiscal cliff deal, passed with 89 votes in the Senate, includes language that would block a 0.5 percent cost of living pay increase for lawmakers, reversing parts of an executive order Obama issued last week – because Congress had yet to set the federal government’s pay scale for 2013.

Voting against the fiscal cliff plan might leave some House Republicans open to charges by future political opponents that they voted to give themselves a raise, or didn’t vote to block a congressional pay raise, Democrats charged.

The GOP-backed bill introduced late Monday would freeze the salaries of lawmakers and the nation’s 2 million federal employees for the remainder of fiscal 2013. Currently, federal worker salaries are frozen through the end of a short-term spending agreement that expires in March. As part of efforts to curtail the deficit, federal employees have not seen a cost of living increase in their paychecks in more than three years.

Holding the pay vote before the fiscal cliff bill is voted on, “is one of the most cynical things I’ve seen,” said Rep. Gerald E. Connolly (D-Va.), whose district is home to hundreds of thousands of federal employees. “It’s being held purely to provide protection for House Republicans who want to vote against the fiscal cliff deal.”

The pay bill is cosponsored by Reps. Mike Fitzpatrick (R-Pa.) and Darrell Issa (R-Calif.)

[Pine Mt Beagles]

The GOP-backed bill introduced late Monday would freeze the salaries of lawmakers and the nation’s 2 million federal employees for the remainder of fiscal 2013. Currently, federal worker salaries are frozen through the end of a short-term spending agreement that expires in March. As part of efforts to curtail the deficit, federal employees have not seen a cost of living increase in their paychecks in more than three years.
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-Newt

If I understand the Post ,

You agree those Sorry ,Federal employee's -Like Federal Marshall's-Postal worker's-Border patrol agent's -etc.Should not get a Raise in pay Because --They Made the mistake of Working for the Federal Government.

Is That What the Post infer's .

[Newt]

I think it infers that we should not be increasing the national debt, after increasing the tax burden on private sector employees, to increase dead beat government workers salaries. Governemt workers are already making more than private sector employees while doing a lousy job. If you have ever worked for the government, you know what I am saying is the truth.
Example, the State Dept employees who dropped the ball on Benghazi allowing those deplomats to die were reported to have lost their jobs. Then it was discovered that they had only been moved to new jobs where it was hoped they would be hidden.
Should those dead beats get a pay raise?
I don't believe that you have the intellect to answer the question. Surprise me.

[Chris Shoopman]

What does being a Democrat mean to you?

yes I am a rep allways have and will die one, and yes I work I see a lot of people ever week I Insulation house's for a livein...

and yes I am pro life I do not think a women should have the right to pick who lives or dies

and yes the unions, I think they are over rated, I think ever state should be a Right to work state

As long as the reps are in the house the dems will not take yourguns rem that! and do not forget it! oh and bye the way I pay taxes have for years, and my taxes when up jan 1 for oboma care, ....takeing care of the people to lazy to work ...not the sick and needy!

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Re: The Real Reason Republican's Are Pushing America Over Cl
by Newt » Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:23 pm

I think it infers that we should not be increasing the national debt, after increasing the tax burden on private sector employees, to increase dead beat government workers salaries. Governemt workers are already making more than private sector employees while doing a lousy job. If you have ever worked for the government, you know what I am saying is the truth.
Example, the State Dept employees who dropped the ball on Benghazi allowing those deplomats to die were reported to have lost their jobs. Then it was discovered that they had only been moved to new jobs where it was hoped they would be hidden.
Should those dead beats get a pay raise?
I don't believe that you have the intellect to answer the question. Surprise me.
Newt

So Newt
You are basing wat you know about Gvernment employee's By ,the very little you know about the Bengazi -crap-where Republican's ,cut funding to the point there were no fund's to keep up security at the embassey .

Well Any -What about the Federal Mrshall's -air traffic controler's -border agent's etc.you, think you are better than they are ,that ou should get a raise and they should not-of curse you do .
If you think Governmant employee's are so sorry come to Ky, have a good friend wh can get you a pass to travel with an underground Mine Inspector for a day.,It will be 19 Inches high about -2-miles and about 3--or 4 inches of water on the bottom your butt will rub the top and your elly on the bottom ,But -2-miles is not much on your belly and you want have bu about 25 pound's of equipment.
Governmment employee's work just as hard ,as the private sector as most,of them,worked in the private sector, for year's to get qualified ,to work for the federal government.

I don't know where you get off thinking Governmant worker's are just on some kind on penson.



Re: The Real Reason Republican's Are Pushing America Over Cl
by Chris Shoopman » Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:27 pm

What does being a Democrat mean to you?

yes I am a rep allways have and will die one, and yes I work I see a lot of people ever week I Insulation house's for a livein...

and yes I am pro life I do not think a women should have the right to pick who lives or dies

and yes the unions, I think they are over rated, I think ever state should be a Right to work state

As long as the reps are in the house the dems will not take yourguns rem that! and do not forget it! oh and bye the way I pay taxes have for years, and my taxes when up jan 1 for oboma care, ....takeing care of the people to lazy to work ...not the sick and needy!

Well Chris I was a little wrong in my acessment of you I had to go back and catch up on some of your post's,

You said you are a Republican and will die a Republican,,-so you are narrow minded -don't have a clue what is going on in te country -and some Bad New's Bud,--You are NOT A Republican ,just a brain washed Individuual who hink's you are Republican.

You say you are pro -life that a woman should not have the right to pick who lives or who dies.
IS THAT NOT THE DUMBEST STATEMENT ANY HUMAN COULD MAKE--IT'S CRAP.
WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS THE WOMAN SHOULD DIE AND LET THE BABY LIVE OR MAYBE DIE,,,,YOU OR THE GOVERNMENT, OR NO ONE ELSE ,,YOU KNOW ,,HAVE THE RIGHT,, TO TELL A WOMAN ,,SHE CANNOT HAVE AN ABORTION TO ,TO SAVE HER LIFE ,,YOU ARE AN DIOT-IF NOT FOR THE WOMAN YOU FOOL THERE WOULD BE NO BABY----YOU WOULD NOT KILL YOUR BEST DOG TO SAVE SOME PUP'S THAT MIGHT LIVE -YOU THINK MORE OF YOUR DOG THAN YOUR WOMAN.

AND REPUBLICAN'S ARE THE BIGGEST REASON FOR THE NUMBER OF ABORTION'S IN AMERICA TODAY.---SO REALLY YOU ARE NOT PRO -LIFE YOU ARE PRO-STUPID.

---AND --I AM A UNION MAN ALL THE WAY ,IF YOU DON'T CARE ENOUGH ABOUT YOUR JOB TO WANT TO PROTECT IT YOU DON'T DESERVE IT.-----BUT-- I WILL SAY INSULATING HOUSES PROBABLY IS NOT A REALLY BIG JOB AND COULD NOT SUPPORT A UNION AS THEY ARE FOR MUCH LARGER COMPANIES.

I WILL ANSWER YOU QUESTION ABOUT WHAT A DEMOCRAT MEAN'S TO ME ,I WILL TRY AND ANSWER THAT TOMORROW.

[Chris Shoopman]

pm you are a joke! you know seams evertime someone doesn't agree with you you get on here and bitch, sounds like you need to grow up!, Ha you are right my lil Jobisent much but at least I am not going to the mail box ever month getting a check from the goveremnt, I go to work 5-6 days a week to live! but o well I think you are a NUT...

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Chris

I DID NOT SAY YOUR JOB WAS NOT MUCH-ANY ONE WHO WORK'S AT ANY JOB -HAS MY RESPECT PERIOD,What I said was a small business could not support a union a most likely does not need one.

SO don't lie about that, and try and go in a different direction,When I pointed out that you really are not a Republican ,none on this board are they just think they are.

I will give you the simple version of what voting Democrat mean's,

It mean's that you believe in the Bill of Right's .---and -No as long as you agree with how some one uses that right.

It mean's that you believe in the Constitution un-Amended-

It mean's that in America ,every one as the right to prosper,not just the elite.

All men are created equal -and ave the same right's .

It mean's that all worker's have a right to a fair wage and safe work place.

It mean's that the poor sick and elderly should not be left in the ditch to fend for them self.

It mean's that the the poor sick and elderly ,should not pay to keep the -elite -elite->

Just to point out a few thing's .

I know you will claim that Republican's ,want or believe the same thing ,but that is just Hippocracy,,Because they vote just the opposite.

[Chris Shoopman]

with all the gun talk and the President it sure would be a bad day to be a hunter and and not a Republican just wait and see how the dems vote bud! its comeing so get ready!!!