Are you a terrorist now according to the goverment?

[mtnwaykennel]

Just wondering how many of you are in the new found catagory of "people who could commit terrorism in america"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090416/...ity_extremists

What a joke! How much more are american's going to take???????

[hotdog]

Here is the letter that was sent to every police station across the U.S.







Homeland Security on guard for 'right-wing extremists'
Returning U.S. military veterans singled out as particular threats

[size=-1]Posted: April 12, 2009
9:40 pm Eastern

[/size][size=-1]© 2009 WorldNetDaily [/size]


WASHINGTON – A newly unclassified Department of Homeland Security report warns against the possibility of violence by unnamed "right-wing extremists" concerned about illegal immigration, increasing federal power, restrictions on firearms, abortion and the loss of U.S. sovereignty and singles out returning war veterans as particular threats.

The report, titled "Right-wing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment," dated April 7, states that "threats from white supremacist and violent anti-government groups during 2009 have been largely rhetorical and have not indicated plans to carry out violent acts."

However, the document, first reported by talk-radio host and WND columnist Roger Hedgecock, goes on to suggest worsening economic woes, potential new legislative restrictions on firearms and "the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks."


The report from DHS' Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines right-wing extremism in the U.S. as "divided into those groups, movements and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups) and those that are mainly anti-government, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration."

"[T]he consequences of a prolonged economic downturn – including real estate foreclosures, unemployment and an inability to obtain credit – could create a fertile recruiting environment for right-wing extremists and even result in confrontations between such groups and government authorities similar to those in the past," the report says.


It adds that "growth in these groups subsided in reaction to increased government scrutiny as a result of the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing and disrupted plots, improvements in the economy and the continued U.S. standing as the pre-eminent world power."

"Proposed imposition of firearms restrictions and weapons bans likely would attract new members into the ranks of right-wing extremist groups as well as potentially spur some of them to begin planning and training for violence against the government," the report continues. "The high volume of purchases and stockpiling of weapons and ammunition by right-wing extremists in anticipation of restrictions and bans in some parts of the country continue to be a primary concern to law enforcement."

Most notable is the report's focus on the impact of returning war veterans.

"Returning veterans possess combat skills and experience that are attractive to right-wing extremists," it says. "DHS/I&A is concerned that right-wing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize veterans in order to boost their violent capacities."

The report cites the April 4 shooting deaths of three police officers in Pittsburgh as an example of what may be coming, claiming the alleged gunman holds a racist ideology and believes in anti-government conspiracy theories about gun confiscations, citizen detention camps and "a Jewish-controlled 'one-world government.'"

It also suggests the election of an African-American president and the prospect of his policy changes "are proving to be a driving force for right-wing extremist recruitment and radicalization."

The report also mentions "'end times' prophecies could motivate extremist individuals and groups to stockpile food, ammunition and weapons. These teachings also have been linked with the radicalization of domestic extremist individuals and groups in the past, such as the violent Christian Identity organizations and extremist members of the militia movement."

"DHS/I&A assesses that right-wing extremist groups' frustration over a perceived lack of government action on illegal immigration has the potential to incite individuals or small groups toward violence," the report continues.

The report states the DHS will be working with state and local partners over the next several months to determine the levels of right-wing extremist activity in the U.S.

Last month,the chief of the MIssouri highway patrol blasted a report issued by the Missouri Information Analysis Center that linked conservative groups to domestic terrorism, assuring that such reports no longer will be issued. The report had been compiled with the assistance of DHS.

The report warned law enforcement agencies to watch for suspicious individuals who may have bumper stickers for third-party political candidates such as Ron Paul, Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin.

It further warned law enforcement to watch out for individuals with "radical" ideologies based on Christian views, such as opposing illegal immigration, abortion and federal taxes.

Chief James Keathley of the Missouri State Patrol issued a statement that the release of the report, which outraged conservatives nationwide, prompted him to "take a hard look" at the procedures through which the report was released by the MIAC.

"My review of the procedures used by the MIAC in the three years since its inception indicates that the mechanism in place for oversight of reports needs improvement," he wrote. "Until two weeks ago, the process for release of reports from the MIAC to law enforcement officers around the state required no review by leaders of the Missouri State Highway Patrol or the Department of Public Safety."

"For that reason, I have ordered the MIAC to permanently cease distribution of the militia report," he said. "Further, I am creating a new process for oversight of reports drafted by the MIAC that will require leaders of the Missouri State Highway Patrol and the Department of Public Safety to review the content of these reports before they are shared with law enforcement. My office will also undertake a review of the origin of the report by MIAC."

[Rabbithoundjb]

This government is the extremist, if you dont agree with the liberal left your a terrorist now. Bush had his faults but this administration is a joke.

[Panther Creek]

Gosh, I guess since I don't believe in killing unborn babies, I'm a "terrorist"????? And if I try to defend myself with my 2nd Amend. rights, I'm a terrorist?

[Panther Creek]

This government is the extremist, if you dont agree with the liberal left your a terrorist now. Bush had his faults but this administration is a joke.

And people thought I was insane when I told them Obama was bad news for sportsman. He's bad news for every American that wants to keep their freedom & liberties. If we let him & his leftist, liberal henchman keep doing what they're doing, they'll run this country into the ground.

[tinymwoods]

What happened to the democrats and Obama lovers? Everyone hiding now? Afraid to speak up and become a terrorist? I am not a veteran, so I am not a terrorist for that. I did attend a tea party and do not believe in killing babies, so I am on the list. Maybe we should all mail our names, addresses, and such to DHS and save them some tax dollars. I am not a gang banger, I love the USA, and I do not belong to an extremist terror group, but I am a terrorist because I support the constitution. Wow, thanks Obama.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

WHY, DOES EVERY ONE THINK ALL THE NUT JOBS ARE ON THE RIGHT'' I THINK THE LEFT HAS A FEW EXTRA.THEM SELVES..
AND I GUESS IF BEING AN EX MARINE FITS THE BILL.I GUESS I'AM GUILTY...

[TC]

There is nut jobs in every family no matter what side the slope you live on, only difference is how tough the shell is to crack.... As far as that goes that nice quiet well dressed young man/lady maybe their worst terrorist hiding in the shadows and one day push comes to shove and their nut shell cracks wide open.... And guess what it probably isn't the Marine that served this country but someones hermit neighbor...

[Alabama John]

It is amazing that today your rights are already gone to a larger extent than we probably realize.

Today in Federal Court, the American, USA flag does not apply. The flag on the wall behind the Judge is the Maritime flag which is a USA flag with a fringed yellow border all around it. Pay attention to shows on TV where in a Courtroom and look for it. Sometimes its not on the wall, but on a stand which is harder to see the fringe. Most likely you have never seen one before. Never seen one flown in a Parade, only in Courthouses. WHY? That's the laws Pirates, Mutineers, etc. and such are tried by, was not meant for regular citizens. Gives Prosecuters much more leeway to do things to cause you to be found guilty.
When announced in Court that a defendant is going to be tried by maritime law the constitution as we learned in school does not apply anymore. Anyone know when the proud USA flag we all know was replaced? I don't. Sure wasn't flown when I was active in the USMC.
Things are changing though which gives us hope. Many prosecutors are being charged with prosecuteral (SP) misconduct. Hopefully we'll get our RIGHTS and FLAG back that so many have died for!

[beaglechase]

most of the time war time veterans know the real facts in a conflict, that the average american doesn't know about, like are we trying to spread democracy or protecting american business interests, I believe the Nam conflict, messed with a lot of the soldiers heads, that the rules of engagement, had strict consequencies for the troops even if they were recieving contact. placing restrictions on any soldier recieving fire, the natural thing to do when your fired upon recieving casualities, wounded, would be let all hell back at the enemy would be the right coarse of action, but when your requested to stand down until you recieve permisson to fire sucks, then to fight so hard to get somewhere then you get a politician, one day gives it all up. and a domino effect sweeps the whole region, then next the desert Nam, where we fought for the oil, and still paid over 4.00 per gallon for it. and still worried tht when we leave the region it will only get worse.....yes some Nam veterans came back with ptsd. and the main frame is they didn't trust the government, and probably still don't...is it any less, that these Iraq veteran troops, feel any less.......are they a threat to America, I don't think so, I believe they would be the salvation of this nation if we ever recieved ground troops on our soil, then they would have the real reason to fight, to save our own freedoms.

[TC]

are they a threat to America, I don't think so, I believe they would be the salvation of this nation if we ever recieved ground troops on our soil, then they would have the real reason to fight, to save our own freedoms.

Thats Why they are Considered a THREAT to the Gov they Will no longer be under Control!!!
they Will THINK for themselves And react accordingly to protect What they believe in!! NOT WHAT THEY ARE TOLD To BELIEVE
When they are Told to Stand Down and Surrender their Arms and Families Do you really think they Will???
Anybody Who Dont Fall Whithin the NORM or Believe as the gov Feels they Should is a THREAT....

[beaglechase]

when or if the time comes the government wants the americans to lay down their weapons down, or forfiet them over to law enforcement agencies, then it is time to worry about being defeated within, I believe that is what Our forfathers had in mind when they wrote the constitution....all the time I was in service I don't remember any soldier worrying over political partyship. just doing the job at hand, patriotism is not a subject along party lines no matter what some would have you think.....but I do know this in Ky, they are denying cdwp permits to veterans, and that makes me angry...

[bluegrass]

when or if the time comes the government wants the americans to lay down their weapons down, or forfiet them over to law enforcement agencies, then it is time to worry about being defeated within




Beaglechase, you couldnt be MORE WRONG!!!


when or if the time comes it will BE TOO LATE...NOW is the time, not when the order comes out to surrender your weapons. But as usual you have no idea what you are writing about. My 14 year old son understands things better than you do.



Tony

[beaglechase]

when or if the time comes the government wants the americans to lay down their weapons down, or forfiet them over to law enforcement agencies, then it is time to worry about being defeated within




Beaglechase, you couldnt be MORE WRONG!!!


when or if the time comes it will BE TOO LATE...NOW is the time, not when the order comes out to surrender your weapons. But as usual you have no idea what you are writing about. My 14 year old son understands things better than you do.
Tony maybe you should let your 14yr old talk to me, because you have no communication skills. If you would say some of the things to me where I could get ahold of you, I guarantee, you you would have that smart aleck attitude fully repaired if you get my drift.. I have bent over backwards to try and get along with you, not agree with you, but discuss things sensible. Tony I know you don't know this but I am going to inform you, your not the brightest light buld out there. matter of a fact I don't know if your even lit!!!!!!! But keep it up and this old veteran will defiantely get the job done....whats your address and phone number Tony...


Tony

[bluegrass]

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