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Running in the off season

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:34 am
by wvdaniel
I know in wv you can run your dogs after hunting season goes out. But my ? Is when you go running what do you do about coyote? We was running last Friday evening and tried to catch the dogs right at dark. Well they got a rabbit up and had a hard time getting them. When we got the last dog there was a coyote 10' from him. Any suggestions?????

Re: Running in the off season

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:39 am
by BCBeagles
I carry a Keltec PMR 30, 22 magnum semiauto, I carry it in a pouch dangling right beside my Garmin.

If coyotes are in the area I fire off a couple shots to help urge them to leave..lol. We have had multiple issues with them until we educated them. Carry that gun everytime I run.... talked to a DNR officer about it. It is used as my protection, not concealed, and that is enough for them.

Good luck, call me sometime and I can tell you some more specifics we have done to "educate" them, coyotes that is.

Take care!

Re: Running in the off season

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:52 am
by wvdaniel
Ok Jim I sure will call. When is a good time? I just didn't know what the dnr would say about having the gun out of season. I know they told me sometime back you can't even have a knife on you when season is out

Re: Running in the off season

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:14 am
by BCBeagles
Call me in the evenings. If you miss me I will call you back.

Take care

Re: Running in the off season

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:15 am
by wvdaniel
Ok thanks

Re: Running in the off season

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:37 am
by big w beagles
What is the law in Ohio about carrying a gun in the off season when running dogs?

Re: Running in the off season

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:49 am
by wvdaniel
Not sure about ohio.

Re: Running in the off season

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:50 am
by wvdaniel
They may not like us running on Sunday either but when you work 5 and 6 days a week you have to get them out sometime :dance:

Re: Running in the off season

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:03 am
by gwyoung
Jim, Interesting that a DNR officer would tell you that it is O.K. to carry any weapon in the off season while running dogs. It is my understanding that Even though WV is an open carry state, there are certain limitations and provisions governing the open carrying of firearms. Wv chapter 20 specifically makes it a criminal offense to have a firearm in one's possession while training dogs in closed season. not only can you not carry a firearm openly you can't have one cased in your vehicle, as I understand the law. Am I missing something, am I not up to date on the current law on this? I would like to carry in the off season but the law seems clear?

Re: Running in the off season

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:03 am
by ray s
big w beagles wrote:What is the law in Ohio about carrying a gun in the off season when running dogs?
It's illegal , unless you have a conceal carry permit. If you do have your CCW and someone with a badge asks." the pistol is for self defense only".

This one was taken a few yards from a den . He didn't like my beagles running rabbits in that area.(actually I was able to get his mate also)
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Re: Running in the off season

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:30 am
by rabbitatfarm
Michigan has a closed running season from April 15th to July 8th unless you have a permit.

Re: Running in the off season

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:34 am
by BCBeagles
It is for my protection and my dogs. It is openly carried as self defense. Just happens I am running dogs.

I was told "how" to answer by a DNA officer....lol. They can fine me, but it may be tough. Still going to carry it, fine cheaper than my dogs.....sometimes..lol.

Re: Running in the off season

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:11 pm
by bigdogpace
CANT U HUNT YOTES ANYTIME DAY OR NIGHT U CAN HERE IN N. C. SO U HAVE TO HAVE AGUN TO SHOOT YOTES

Re: Running in the off season

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:44 pm
by ray s
bigdogpace wrote:CANT U HUNT YOTES ANYTIME DAY OR NIGHT U CAN HERE IN N. C. SO U HAVE TO HAVE AGUN TO SHOOT YOTES
I mentioned that type of scenario to a game warden. He explained to me that he has hunted rabbits with beagles and he would know exactly what I was doing and he wouldn't appreciate me insulting his intelligents. And a judge would more than likely see it his way. I caught his drift, and let him know I also wasn't going let my dogs be coyote fodder either. He did say it wasn't a violation he went looking for but, would usually be one he was called out on.

Re: Running in the off season

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:47 pm
by pztrailman
I talk to two different game wardens and our District 3 office and told them why I carried a pistol when running dogs. I had one killed. I have pictures in my truck. I was told if asked about the gun as long as I answered that I was coyote hunting there wasn't anything that they could do. You can hunt coyote 24/7.