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Judging Question
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 6:46 am
by AFTERSHOCK
Little pack rules: You are in waist high grass/weed field and all the hounds are out searching and a rabbit runs by you then hound A wimpers 20 feet behind you and several seconds later lets out 1 bark and a couple of seconds go by and Hound B jumps a different rabbit 75 yards away and is pounding it down the woods edge with all the other hounds. How would you score this?
AFTERSHOCK
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:02 am
by Bart Caudill
Hound B gets strike points.
Bart
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:16 am
by woodbrier kennels
hound b would get strike points because he moved the rabbit out of the strike area
rule
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:38 am
by Big Dog
Hound B should get Strike and possibly jump points.
Big Dog
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:46 am
by Lynn Perkins
By the wording of your example,hound B should get strike and jump points
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:08 am
by AV Spencer
Strike/Jump +40
But, what if hound A was only 5 feet behind you and the same situation occured.
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:13 am
by biged1
From what you say Hound A "whimpered" - in my book whimpering is not barking, not to say that some hounds sound like they are whimpering when running, but you should be able to tell the difference. Anyway Hound B sounds like he definitelygot the "THREE" barks in for the strike (10 points) and depending on how he drove out of there he may be deserving of "A" jump (30 points). Just keep track of where the rabbit you saw went - may want to use it for a seperate chase later.
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:18 am
by Bart Caudill
No offense anyone,but I think it would be hard for a Judge to determine which dog jumped the rabbit from 75 yards away, when he stated that Hound B was running it WITH ALL THE OTHER HOUNDS. That is why I said stike points.
If you could see all the hounds, or could tell Hound B was far enough off, by himself, then yes strike and jump. But as described here, I say strike only.
If I were there, it would be a whole lot easier to evaluate the give circumstance.
Bart
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:35 am
by Lynn Perkins
Bart NO offense but you need to go back and reread the example given.It says hound b jumped a rabbit and then pounded off with the other hounds.by this hound b would have to get the jump points and also strike points.
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:53 am
by Bart Caudill
Lynn, you are right. This original question is not about whether or not Hound B jumped the rabbit,(that part is cut and dry at the beginning) but rather how would you score him. I apoligize.
STRIKE and JUMP
Bart
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:04 am
by AFTERSHOCK
AV, You know how I score it. But 5 feet , 20 feet or 2 feet whats the difference.
AFTERSHOCK
question
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:06 am
by Jim Stinnett
I was in the cast Aftershock was talking about. First their was 2 judges. One was back by the handler and the other up 75 or so yards with some dogs. Hound a was searching. Craig saw a rabbit get up but he told us we could have jumped it. Hound a barked one time. Up with the other dogs Hound b had a strike/jump on a different rabbit. That judge up there could see it. Matt & Craig made the right call. Strike/jump on hound b. At the end of the hunt the only hound in that cast with plus points was hound b. They awarded hound a 2nd for its effort on the rabbit Craig seen. I think they did the right thing. There was always a judge on the hounds. Thanks you guys!
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:06 am
by AFTERSHOCK
By the way! We scored it as hound B strike and jump and had them bring hound A up to join the race.
AFTERSHOCK
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:19 am
by kjohns
Sounds like it was scored right to me. Did someone in the cast argue it? If so, what was their arguement?
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:22 am
by Bart Caudill
I believe it was scored the right way also.
Bart