Judging Question

AFTERSHOCK · Post by **AFTERSHOCK** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 6:46 am

Little pack rules: You are in waist high grass/weed field and all the hounds are out searching and a rabbit runs by you then hound A wimpers 20 feet behind you and several seconds later lets out 1 bark and a couple of seconds go by and Hound B jumps a different rabbit 75 yards away and is pounding it down the woods edge with all the other hounds. How would you score this?
AFTERSHOCK

Bart Caudill · Post by **Bart Caudill** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:02 am

Hound B gets strike points.

Bart

woodbrier kennels · Post by **woodbrier kennels** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:16 am

hound b would get strike points because he moved the rabbit out of the strike area

Big Dog · Post by **Big Dog** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:38 am

Hound B should get Strike and possibly jump points.

Big Dog

Lynn Perkins · Post by **Lynn Perkins** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:46 am

By the wording of your example,hound B should get strike and jump points

AV Spencer · Post by **AV Spencer** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:08 am

Strike/Jump +40

But, what if hound A was only 5 feet behind you and the same situation occured.

biged1 · Post by **biged1** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:13 am

From what you say Hound A "whimpered" - in my book whimpering is not barking, not to say that some hounds sound like they are whimpering when running, but you should be able to tell the difference. Anyway Hound B sounds like he definitelygot the "THREE" barks in for the strike (10 points) and depending on how he drove out of there he may be deserving of "A" jump (30 points). Just keep track of where the rabbit you saw went - may want to use it for a seperate chase later.

Bart Caudill · Post by **Bart Caudill** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:18 am

No offense anyone,but I think it would be hard for a Judge to determine which dog jumped the rabbit from 75 yards away, when he stated that Hound B was running it WITH ALL THE OTHER HOUNDS. That is why I said stike points.
If you could see all the hounds, or could tell Hound B was far enough off, by himself, then yes strike and jump. But as described here, I say strike only.
If I were there, it would be a whole lot easier to evaluate the give circumstance.

Bart

Lynn Perkins · Post by **Lynn Perkins** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:35 am

Bart NO offense but you need to go back and reread the example given.It says hound b jumped a rabbit and then pounded off with the other hounds.by this hound b would have to get the jump points and also strike points.

Bart Caudill · Post by **Bart Caudill** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:53 am

Lynn, you are right. This original question is not about whether or not Hound B jumped the rabbit,(that part is cut and dry at the beginning) but rather how would you score him. I apoligize.
STRIKE and JUMP

Bart

AFTERSHOCK · Post by **AFTERSHOCK** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:04 am

AV, You know how I score it. But 5 feet , 20 feet or 2 feet whats the difference.
AFTERSHOCK

Jim Stinnett · Post by **Jim Stinnett** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:06 am

I was in the cast Aftershock was talking about. First their was 2 judges. One was back by the handler and the other up 75 or so yards with some dogs. Hound a was searching. Craig saw a rabbit get up but he told us we could have jumped it. Hound a barked one time. Up with the other dogs Hound b had a strike/jump on a different rabbit. That judge up there could see it. Matt & Craig made the right call. Strike/jump on hound b. At the end of the hunt the only hound in that cast with plus points was hound b. They awarded hound a 2nd for its effort on the rabbit Craig seen. I think they did the right thing. There was always a judge on the hounds. Thanks you guys!

AFTERSHOCK · Post by **AFTERSHOCK** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:06 am

By the way! We scored it as hound B strike and jump and had them bring hound A up to join the race.
AFTERSHOCK

kjohns · Post by **kjohns** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:19 am

Sounds like it was scored right to me. Did someone in the cast argue it? If so, what was their arguement?

Bart Caudill · Post by **Bart Caudill** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:22 am

I believe it was scored the right way also.
Bart