Coyotes

Indiana Brian · Post by **Indiana Brian** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 9:07 am

Is anyone else noticing that the "yotes" seem to be growing in numbers? We've been having a lot of problems with them coming in on our dogs in a certain cornfield. I've got bells on my dogs, but that doesn't seem to affect them. I have noticed one thing....the older dogs seem to get wise to them pretty quickly. I've got a 2 year old who will run a rabbit right up to the edge of the field, but refuses to go in. This is the ONLY time I have EVER seen her quit.
I don't mind. To me, that isn't a lack of hunt, it's using your head.
Anyway, we've been given permission to "get rid of as many of those critters as we can" by the landowner. He has cattle in nearby fields and he says they have taken down some of his calfs.
The landowner owns a dog, and of course we run ours there too.
Does anyone know of a good way (other than spending hours sitting in the dark with a rabbit in distress call) to kill these things?
Now, I know it's illegal, but someone once told me that a foolproof way to kill a coyote is to tie a heavy three pronged hook to a sturdy branch just high enough for a yote to jump and reach. Place some meat on it and they will jump up to get the meat, become hooked, and die. Has anyone out there ever did this? You can reply as a guest if you want. LOL. Brian

beaglehandler · Post by **beaglehandler** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 11:00 am

The best method I have found is using poison. You need a few 5 gallon buckets, go to dollar store and buy can cat food. Mix poison with cat food lay 5 gallon bucket on it's side and place poisoned cat food in bucket. The best poison is liquid nicotine, it's hard to find and I also think it has been outlawed. I use rat poison and roundup. It doesn't take alot of poison to kill one. A few things to remember, don't get caught doing this, pickup poison before running dogs and pickup dead animals and discard them also. I have said for the last two or three years now that all beaglers should spend one day a week all year long killing coyts. We hunt them every Sunday afternoon in the winter with high power rifles and it's alot of fun. The more people who hunt and kill them, the less their numbers will increase.

Rock Bottom · Post by **Rock Bottom** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 11:48 am

Guys you are asking for trouble if you start with the poision. Kill the neighbors dog or cat ect....If it is ever found out you will be paying big fines too. You do not have to sit for hours in the dark with a rabbit in distress call. Go out just like deer hunting-just before daylight, as soon as it is light enough to see they will show themselves. If not then call for about 30 min. if they are close they will come. I always carry a pistol when I run my dogs. If you shoot at them a few times they are smart enough to disappear when you show up.

TomMN · Post by **TomMN** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:22 pm

I hate coyotes as much as anyone but I would a lot rather deal with them than have someone putting out poison and hooks.
Stop and think about what you are saying. How would you feel if you found your best dog hanging on a hook? Anything that will kill a coyote will also kill a dog.

marknc · Post by **marknc** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 1:46 pm

not to get ya stired up TomMN but have you ever had a pair of beagles killed by coyotes and another tore up that ya had to pay vet bills on . well i have and let me tell ya it isnt a good feeling . the coyotes are a smart animal and its hard to kill them with a call or gun when they get call smart or educated . i will be after them how ever i can get them from here on out . i thought i had them gone but this past week we have seen three more in the same area that all this happen in to start with . we didnt see no sign for a good long time and then all at once tracks again and seen three yotes in one day. if you have yotes just get prepared they will sometime or another get youre beagle its just a matter of time so i say take care of them the best way ya can ....... shooting, trapping , poison, etc .
get um before they have anymore young ones to try and have a beagle meal keep ya beagles safe
marknc

Bart Caudill · Post by **Bart Caudill** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 1:56 pm

Some of the guys around here use a road killed deer for bait. They have tried laying it in an open spot, then hunting over it, from a higher elevation. The problem is, the yotes will drag the carcuss into the cover to eat, and you can't get a shot.

Next, they tied it up in a tree by the back legs, and leaving the head and neck on the ground. For some reason, the yotes would'nt fool with it.

If you try this, I recommend driving something in the ground, and tie one of the back legs to it, to prevent them from dragging the deer off. You need to use wire to prevent them from chewing it loose. Have a place to set with a high powered rifle, overlooking where you placed the road kill. If you live in flat country, try using a tree stand. Another thing this does is it gets your human scent up above the noses of the yotes. Also, use scent control to cover human scent when rigging this up, because it is a known fact that a coyote has a far superior nose than a domestic dog. They say that a yote can smell like a deer. Scientist say a deer can smell 10 times better than a dog.

Maybe we need to start crossing yotes into our Beagles, for better noses.

shannon · Post by **shannon** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:20 pm

Well I live in town here in Danville ,And just the other nite,Randy and I saw one less than 1 mile from the house walking by the railroad tracks,,,Now I dont know how close they get to houses but he was only a few hundred yards from houses,,, but he just crossed the road and went on his way,We have seen him cross there since then,,,So its kinda scary that the fur bearing animals are getting so overpopulated,,,I counted 10 dead coons just last nite,,,We have red fox right here around too?I think since the fur trade prices have went down so much,Nobody wants to hunt or trap,Randy used to trap but gave it up years ago when fur prices dropped?Well hopefully all goes well with everyone ,and the dogs stay safe while running,Thanks Shannon

Wildwood Neighbor · Post by **Wildwood Neighbor** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:08 pm

I would not recommend the poison option. Several years ago some local guys got that idea and had some success at getting a few coyotes. Since we live in the Mississippi flyway, Bald Eagles frequent the area during the winter. Some Eagles were found dead after eating the poisoned songdogs. Those guys ended up spending time after paying about $50K a piece. Not worth it to me. Spending time out in the field whether chasing coyotes or rabbits, are both enjoyable to me. I usually have the opportunity during deer season to thin out the local dog population although it is illegal to do so, who cares about coyotes.

Chris Spall · Post by **Chris Spall** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:37 pm

get yourself some coyote dogs, you've never had so much fun.

beaglehandler · Post by **beaglehandler** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 9:56 pm

I use poison but it is not close to any houses or farm animals or domestic dogs or cats. We also run them with dogs some but its even better with snow on the ground, run them down with snowmobiles. I carry a 22-250 in my truck at all times and if I see one out in a field, darn his luck. The problem will never go away if more don't pitch in and help thin them down. I have tried many times to get others to help hunt them but they are always to busy running dogs or field trialing. One Sunday last winter we had 18 hunters one Sunday afternoon and got 5 coyts. I will continue to use the poison as long as there are coyts, and the more I kill the less to breed.

coyote hunter · Post by **coyote hunter** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 10:25 pm

I know a guy very will that has used the hooks and it is the best for sure.

Bopeye · Post by **Bopeye** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 11:15 pm

Well folks. Trap, shoot, poison, nuke, whatever, you ain't gonna get rid of them. The best we can do is knock a few down and keep them afraid of us and our dogs. You kill an Alpha pair and within a year the void will be filled by another pair just like a vacuum. Don't get me wrong though, I have a mighty good time trying. Just wish I had more time to go of late.

Out west they use to poison them like crazy, shoot them from planes, trap them, call them, bait them, chase 'em with dogs, hit them with cars, trucks you name it. I've even got one crazy cousin in Colorado that runs them down on his four wheeler and then nails them with a Louisville slugger. All that and they are still quite plentiful out there.

My mom use to work in the courthouse in a little town in western Nebraska when she was a teenager. One of her jobs was paying the men that brought coyotes ears in for the bounty. She said they would bring them in by the handful, but still remembers seeing coyotes just as much. The people never quit complaining about them either. That was fourty some odd years ago and my grandma says she still sees them there quite frequently.

Have fun.

Indiana Brian · Post by **Indiana Brian** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:02 am

I've even got one crazy cousin in Colorado that runs them down on his four wheeler and then nails them with a Louisville slugger

TC · Post by TC » Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:00 am

Lots More Fun In The Winter on Snow Mobiles!!! Just careful And Try not to run over em They Can Get sucked up into the track

We use a 22 pistol and Larger rifle Snomobile Hunting them!! As far as Reducing Numbers They Will catch back up We have killed up to 15 a day when they had the Bounty on them Out here Some of the ranchers In Eastern oregon Will still pay ya to hunt them.

Indiana Brian · Post by **Indiana Brian** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:22 am

"They Can Get sucked up into the track"

ROFL.....The picture of that in my head isn't a bad thing.

Brian