dogs blowing up

[bodetis]

just wondering what are some of you alls opinions on causes of dogs blowing up,i mean if you have a solid hound that just loses it at 2 or 3 years old, what are the biggest reasons. me i just wonder if running in the summer where everything is green, and knee high and polin everywhere and not to mention baby rabbits everywhere can cause them to struggle so bad that it causes dogs to go backwards. just curious and yes i had one to blow up last year. thanks

[Woodhavenrabbitdogs]

I had a 4 year old female pretty well blow up in a UKC HB format style, now Im gonna admit I like 13 in dogs and she is a 11 inch dog that is competitve and running against 4 other 15 in dogs pushed her to her limit, now on a hard frost that slowed everyone down she done super well but on a day everyone was shining she would get stupid and just go crazy cause she wanted that jump or at the very least in on it. it took a whileof no compition to calm her back down. now she is my puppy starter, she gets no real pressure from them and you can always know she is trash free and honest

[PREACHERS KENNEL]

most the time i seen ,young dogs blow up, because of to much pressure to soon ..ran with to many dogs ....

have seen this about 4 dog this way i did it once . wont do it again... my young dogs stay with slower older dogs till 13,14 months old...just on ocassion they see whole pack//

[rabbitearl]

I will agree with preacher.

[deerhost]

I have been at a few trials and have had some well known beaglers with over 20 years and at least one with over 30 years experiance of raising and running beagles tell me they will put a young dog in a few derby trials but will not put too much pressure on a young dog for at least first two years and sometimes longer. I tend to believe it. Yes some can handle it but other young dogs start doing crazy stuff, overrunning, running with there head up and not having the line, some start running silent in front of the pack. I like to brace a young dog with an older dog, run in a pack of three, some solo time. Some on here will say if they blow up when run in a pack then they were never any good anyway. To each his own, but I go easy on young dogs. I think depending on the pup sometimes too much solo time can make a young dog too independant. If they have the rabbit to them selfs all the time they never want to share it and become overcompetitive. I think as a beagler you should feel each pup out and see what it needs. Thats why we are beaglers, what kind of beaglers are we if we just throw them in a pack and either let them sink or swim. Either way I think we will never turn a crappy dog into a world beater, but we can hurt a good prospect by not giving it time to learn and do work with a pack and on its own......DH

[bodetis]

thanks guys great posts!

[JCM]

Breeding! If you see adog that is blown up look at dogs in its pedigree. You will find dogs that could not take pressure. Some dogs put on the pressure. Some dogs can't deal with pressure. If a dog blows up or needs special training to keep from blowing up it should never be bred. If a dog blows up it is because it wasn't out of strong minded hounds that can take the heat.

[hounddog]

Breeding! If you see adog that is blown up look at dogs in its pedigree. You will find dogs that could not take pressure. Some dogs put on the pressure. Some dogs can't deal with pressure. If a dog blows up or needs special training to keep from blowing up it should never be bred. If a dog blows up it is because it wasn't out of strong minded hounds that can take the heat.

Jim, I'm sure we will take a lot of heat for this but I agree 100%.
I sstart, train, and run all my hounds together and have never blown up a pup or dog.
I don't want or need a hound that requires special attention.
I let my young hounds start when they want. I don't drop them in a starting pen at 4 months old just so I can say they were running at that age. When they do decide to start running, they go with the big dogs.

hounddog
Jim Umbarger

[JCM]

Breeding! If you see adog that is blown up look at dogs in its pedigree. You will find dogs that could not take pressure. Some dogs put on the pressure. Some dogs can't deal with pressure. If a dog blows up or needs special training to keep from blowing up it should never be bred. If a dog blows up it is because it wasn't out of strong minded hounds that can take the heat.

Jim, I'm sure we will take a lot of heat for this but I agree 100%.
I sstart, train, and run all my hounds together and have never blown up a pup or dog.
I don't want or need a hound that requires special attention.
I let my young hounds start when they want. I don't drop them in a starting pen at 4 months old just so I can say they were running at that age. When they do decide to start running, they go with the big dogs.

hounddog
Jim Umbarger

We may take some heat but we can take the pressure.

[johns03272008]

Hounddog, JCM- I think y'all need some solo time remember it cures all!!

[Hwy 30 kennels]

I have a hound that is not worth killing when spring begins the females eyes even swell up during this time of year when ran ..the rest of the year she is one of the best hounds I ever owned I don't understand it at all...

[PREACHERS KENNEL]

i guess it really only matter if you want dogs with some line control ,that dont swing slash and cut the whole race. now i like a dog wanting the front ...i heck raiuse and train patch dogs which are known for that ///...but mine can run pp or most of them can lol. i just give the young pups time to turn into dogs.

yall know the young pup in the trying to run with seasoned hounds aint getting much done ,or getting muich rabbit som nhe has to cheat or whatever to get some .he has that desire cant blame the dog ,just the owner.

i have done the same as you last guys have said with good results. i guess i am just more piucky abouyt how i do it now after 30 plus years of running dogs . just been in patch for about 10 of that ...aint never going back either .

but good luck with that ..

[dhoundman]

over a year ago i had lot of pleasant valley breeding and at two they all started back tracking even the once i sold to other guys that i never run with . It is in the breeding you got to find a good strong blood line that has been proven time and again and is still around not from years ago. good luck i got some great dogs now and i just stay away from ace in the hole cross if you like them fast with controle you don't want ace in the hole. that is my oppion. it don't mean much but thier it is . i run Green Bay Butkus pups and Dirty Pond Blacky's Legacy and they nevever back or blowe up. good luck hope you find what you like

[Budd]

Breeding! If you see adog that is blown up look at dogs in its pedigree. You will find dogs that could not take pressure. Some dogs put on the pressure. Some dogs can't deal with pressure. If a dog blows up or needs special training to keep from blowing up it should never be bred. If a dog blows up it is because it wasn't out of strong minded hounds that can take the heat.

Agreed, I've blown up one or two if that's what ya want to call it but had I eased them along and they became good hounds and I would have bred them, then I would have to easy there pups along as well. I saved myself the time by moveing them on and breeding dogs that CAN take the preasure from early on.

[NorWester1]

Breeding! If you see adog that is blown up look at dogs in its pedigree. You will find dogs that could not take pressure. Some dogs put on the pressure. Some dogs can't deal with pressure. If a dog blows up or needs special training to keep from blowing up it should never be bred. If a dog blows up it is because it wasn't out of strong minded hounds that can take the heat.

A sun like ray of common sense beaming thru what seems like a perpetual cloud of stupid ass crap.... thank you sir