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help

Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 6:54 pm
by Ed Murphy
I have a two year old Male, he was in good running shape one week ago, I laid him up through the Holidays, fead him the same amount of food, wen,t out to feed him today, his sides are bulged out and his belly saged down, Looks like a female ready to have pups, he don,t act good either, was running him three or four times a week before, has anybody seen this before?

Re: help

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:34 am
by Bunnyblaster
I don't know if his condition has changed but did you call a vet to ask this morning?

I don't have an answer for you but thought I would bump it to see if someone else might.

Re: help

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 3:40 pm
by Ed Murphy
Ed Murphy wrote:I have a two year old Male, he was in good running shape one week ago, I laid him up through the Holidays, fead him the same amount of food, wen,t out to feed him today, his sides are bulged out and his belly saged down, Looks like a female ready to have pups, he don,t act good either, was running him three or four times a week before, has anybody seen this before?
I,ve never seen anything like this he took sick yesterday died this morning before i could get anything done for him, he was the dog to get me back into field trialing, he had it all jump check hunt he had to have the front i,ve seen him wear his front toe nails they would be bleeding to keep the front one good thing I have his sire and Dame cant wait now to make this cross again. its sad at my house today, my wife and hunting buddy has been crying all day.

Re: help

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:04 am
by Bunnyblaster
Is it possible his stomach flipped?

Re: help

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:24 am
by TC
Sounds like a Torsion to me also (Stomach Flipped)
Gastric Dilatation
Volvulus (GDV), Bloat and Torsion

In this theory, dogs that drank after a meal of dry chow caused the food to rapidly expand. This theory assumed that the enlarged stomach then flipped over during rough exercise. We now know that the actual explanation is not that simple. We also know that GDV is associated with abnormal muscular contractions of the stomach. These, plus the kinks that forms in the stomach’s openings, prevent the dog from belching swallowed air. Lack of normal motility and circulation in the stomach cause the body to become too acidic (metabolic acidosis). We also know that dogs who eat from elevated dishes are more likely to become bloated. Their dishes should always be on the floor.

It can happen to any dog, but it usually happens to big dogs. It strikes males more than females, and if not treated, can kill within hours.

No one knows what causes it and no one is sure how to prevent it; there are a lot of opinions all based on anecdotal evidence, but no hard facts to go on.

Bloat, as it is commonly called, is a condition technically known as gastric dilation/volvolus, or GDV, which at first seems and is, similar to stomach gas. The abdomen becomes enlarged and distended, and the dog shows signs of discomfort

Bloat, also called stomach torsion or twisted stomach, is the number two killer of dogs, after cancer, yet many, if not most dog owners are not familiar with it or aware how serious a problem it is. There is no direct cause and affect with this problem, such as a bacteria or virus that a vet can treat with antibiotics or vaccinate against. Bloat is usually the result of a combination of factors that might have no affect on most dogs, but can bring about a life-threatening situation in others. Owner awareness of the problem is the first step in preventing its occurrence
NOT saying it was but Sounds like it to me!!

Re: help

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:04 pm
by Ed Murphy
Thank,s fellows I believe you got it right, I thank it was twisted stomach that,s the first time i,ve seen anything like that in over fifty year,s beageling, what can you do to cure it?

Re: help

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:55 pm
by pcable
The only thing you can do is take them to the vet for surgery. And you need to do it quickly as you already know. Sorry for your loss.

Re: help

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:20 pm
by TallPaul
Thanks TC That's some good info to know