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I'm starting to believe that all this hare breeding is hurting the quality of dogs for us who run cottontails. Just curious if anyone out there is still breeding the old cottontail type hound. I'm also curious if anyone else is noticing a difference in the quality of hounds since the explosion of the hare breeding.

Look down south. look up Blackcreek beagles.

Tony,


Some guys have pushed the limits of how fast a beagle can successfully run a rabbit. Overall I don't think anyone is hurting the breed. There are guys that breed just about every speed imaginable, from a very slow walking brace hound to a head high swinging hounds and everything in between. Once you find the speed that suits you there will be a group of guys that like the same speed, and trials set up for that speed.

Contact George Pierman, he is from Clio area, he frequents this board, someone might even have his contact info. He is a good guy and has the more conservative line running type dogs you refer too.


Mybeagles

Tonyallen83 wrote:I'm starting to believe that all this hare breeding is hurting the quality of dogs for us who run cottontails. Just curious if anyone out there is still breeding the old cottontail type hound. I'm also curious if anyone else is noticing a difference in the quality of hounds since the explosion of the hare breeding.

I run nothing but cottontail check out my site and tell me if this is what you mean by cottontail type dog.

http://www.wix.com/beaglerof4/jandkgundogs#!about

I had to cut loose them thar hare hounds . They. But thats just me. dont cut the mustard for me

Look at the Gay line. Bred for cottontails and they do a great job for me. The dingus stuff works real well too. I tend to favor the progressive pack style hounds, to me, these hounds are true cottontail hounds. JMO.

My HOF hound Dutch is cottontail bred. He was successful in both big pack and little pack. He has a ton of hunt, very good control..... Yet he had a lot of speed. He isn't getting any younger but he is still viable.

Information wise his pedigee includes old cottontail greats Like HOF Spicers Blueback, Ellison Ridge Redman, Big Red Tracker, Spicers Ginger and some of Cres,ss and Mcutcheons old line.

Fleetwood wrote:The dingus stuff works real well too.

Dingus is the foundation for most harehounds, doubt he ever saw a cottontail. His stuff is great for cottontails, so I don't see how this 'harehound' hurt the breed at all.

Never said he hurt the breed hookset, just merely said his line works really well for cottontails-especially when crossed with the Gay line!

Hey Fleetwood, not really refering to you or saying anything bad about Dingus, just the title of the post is how Harehounds are the demise of the cottontail dog. I don't see how it hurt that much.

Go to rabbitdog.net these guys run Cotten tail dogs.

Is it possible to get great speed and drive but elminate alle the cutting and swinging? Just wandering.

U CAN BREED DOGS TO RUN HAIR OFF COTTONTAIL WITH LINE CONTROL OUT OF HARE DOGS IVE BEEN SUCESSELFUL I GUESS THEY SATISFIE ME I USE TUBRO REGGIE AND CROSS WITH NORTWAY AND YELLOW CREEK NOW THIS DIDNT HAPPEN OVERNIGHT TOOK ALOT OF TRIAL AND ERROR MINE R NOT THE FASTEST N WORLD BUT PRETTY GOOD COTTONTAIL DOGS AT FIRST I WENT SPEED SPEED SPEED IT DIDNT WORK 4 ME THEN FRIEND LET ME HAVE APUP NORTHWAY TUBRO CROSSED THEN WENT TO SOME OLD YELLOW CREEK IN OTHER WORDS I CROSSED THE FASTEST WITH SOME OLD TIMEY BIG NOSE FULL OF HUNT NORTHWAY AND YELLOW CREEK AND WORKED GOOD SO 4 YRS I STILL DO SAME THING AND BY TRIAL AND ERROR GOT SOME FAIR DOGS CAN RUN ACOTTON TAILS. I DONT BELIEVE N SAYING ALINE JUST WONT WORK MAYB NEVERBEEN CROSSED RIGHT NOW IM JUST BACKYARD BREEDER BEEN DOING THIS 45 YRS BUT THERE R HARE DOGS THAT CAN RUN ACOTTONTAILS U JUST GOT TO FIND THE RIGHT ONES THANKS 4 READING

blueback dogs are by far my favorite dogs and they are cotton tale bred dogs,i strongly suggest you come watch my rake dog run if ur lookin for good old style beagles...feel free to come up any time .740 417 1173

LaMarr Rhoades wrote:blueback dogs are by far my favorite dogs and they are cotton tale bred dogs,i strongly suggest you come watch my rake dog run if ur lookin for good old style beagles...feel free to come up any time .740 417 1173

I have seen Rake run alot,and he is definitely a cottontail dog. Big nose,good line control,medium to upper medium speed.He is a solid rabbit dog.