The American Beagler Forum

shouldent these run hand and hand
this gets confusing to me when my dogs bark the rabbit is moving but i have had other hunter ask me if the rabbit is jumped and i look at them like they are stupid and say there running arnt they. can i get some differnt points of veiw on this topic as to what kind of dog i have jump or strike

Jump- When a rabbit has been flushed from a setup

Strike- hounds may be tracking or trailing a rabbit, but it may not be up and running.

Jump to be is BED JUMP. Rabbit sitting tight dog comes within inches of it before it takes off. Thats a JUMP to me. Or when they are jumped out of a brushpile. Dog goes in barks rabbit comes out of the brushpile.

Strike dogs gets a line out of the blue. Just randomly picks up on scent. Rabbit could of done jumped out of his hiding spot in the grass few minutes ago.

Strike dogs picked up on stray rabbit.

This is just My opinion

so a jump dog wont strike a track and a track dog wont get a jump. see this is what i am talking about.
i like a hound to account for his game rather he strike a track ,or pop up a sitter THAT IS WHAT I CALL A TRUE JUMP DOG.
my hounds will do both i guess if they hit a stray first that is the first to die.if they jump one out of his bed he is the first to die. see how i do things, but they better account for there game every time they open there lips. the dogs that dont account for there game dont stay here.

i guess i would rather have a strike dog if i had to choose as he could still bump sitting rabbits but would a jump dog ever get a race if the rabbit was constantly ahead of him

if all beaglers kept it as simple as accounting for game when opening all our beagles would be better

I agree with you chapko, my dogs don`t trail so the rabbit is jumped and struck or struck and jumped hand in hand JMHO coarse as old as I am I haven`t had nuch ojt so I could be wrong. All my hounds can jump their own rabbit, to some their not jump dogs ,if a dog jumps a rabbit he is a jump dog nothin else jumped it for him JMO. Don`t matter if it`s in a bed or already out of the bed.

any beagle can pick up random scent line out there. Be it cold trailing or just picked up on scent from a stray that ran out 10 minutes ago.

JUMP DOG = found a rabbit thats been sitting tight all dang day long in a grass hole. Dog routed it out. IF you haven't seen a beagle do this you are missing out.

Or dog that digs thru the nastiest looking brush pile and jumps the rabbit out. = JUMP DOG

These are Field Trial terms. To a hunter they should be one in the same as far as their dogs are concerned. To me, a jump dog is one that has a knack for being the first and most often to start the run. If the rabbits are sitting, they are the ones to get them moving. If the rabbits are moving, they are the one to find the track.

To give the pot another stir, what is the difference between "hunt" and "search".

Jump is when the dog actually moves the rabbit from cover and it will usually be a lot hotter than when a dog strikes one. Strike is when a dog comes across a track a rabbit has laid earlier and he opens on it and moves the rabbit that way. You want a dog that can do both but not a dog that opens on a track so cold he can't get the rabbit going again.

Tim H wrote:To give the pot another stir, what is the difference between "hunt" and "search".

These two words are synonymous in the English language (when both are used as verbs).

like i said a good jump dog accounts for his game period. he starts the race first by producing a track witch produces GAME if he cant produce game but produces tracks you keep them ones,but the ones that bark first all the time and drag the pack into a great race send me them

IF I TAKE WHAT I CALL A JUMP DOG TO THE WOODS IT DOSENT MATTER IF YOU BEEN THERE OR NOT I WILL STILL RUN RABBITS. i have seen dogs that can hunt the down wind side of brush and thow there nose up and if they move on. the whole packwill as well. i dont exspect southern boys to know about this kind of nose and brains in hounds as they were all hare breed.

Bobby Vest wrote:Jump is when the dog actually moves the rabbit from cover and it will usually be a lot hotter than when a dog strikes one. Strike is when a dog comes across a track a rabbit has laid earlier and he opens on it and moves the rabbit that way. You want a dog that can do both but not a dog that opens on a track so cold he can't get the rabbit going again.

CHAPKO!!!!
I didn't think ya'll had winders up north. Ha ha