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Mapel Valley or other Auto service techs (update Pics)
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:08 am
by Joeyman
I know Jimmy that you work at a GM service dealership or something along those lines. CAN YOU PLEASE HELP ME FIGURE OUT WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY TRUCK
or anyone that is a mechanic.
I've taking this truck to TWO different shops and noone can fix it.
Video Please Watch this video it will show you exactly what is going on wth it. 1998 chevy silverado Z71. Before I dump this truck at the salvage yard Or take a giant sledge hammer to it. I drove it to Kirksville Mo = 3hrs from my house on a rabbit hunt and it left me in the middle of a corn field for 45minutes then started up for me and it was just about to get dark out. that was back during rabbit season
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDRwkEFLq-U&fmt=18
Re: Mapel Valley or other Auto service techs
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:24 am
by royhollister
joey my truck does the same thing if the security light is on you have to wait 10 minutes untill it quites blinking with the key on position. do you have a remote starter? i do on mine ever since i had troubles with it it has something to do with your security. hope this helps roy
Re: Mapel Valley or other Auto service techs
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:28 am
by Joeyman
yes the security light comes on every once and a while. But While I'm cranking in that video it is not on. It flashes a few time but then stops.
and no I don't have a remote starter
This is a nightmare. I like my truck it has low miles and looks good but this has got to be fixed before rabbit season starts. I'm afraid to take it out just to go run the dogs. Afraid I'll get stuck somewhere.
I've tried the leaving the key on the ON position once. I think i waited bout 10minutes and it still did it. I really can't remember.
I bet if I try and start it up today it'll start for me and run fine for a few days then do it again.
Jimmy might know this one.
Security system for my truck. Is it all in the ignition or is there the box inside the dash somewhere?
Re: Mapel Valley or other Auto service techs
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:38 am
by royhollister
if the security light is blinking turn the key on wait 10 min. it will go off or be solid. i watched the video it was blinking i have the same problem. dont keep cranking it.
Re: Mapel Valley or other Auto service techs
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:42 am
by royhollister
by the way you have to wait the full 10 min. if it contineus to blink keep repeating the steps sometimes mine takes 30 min. im still trying to figure the problem out and my truck is a 2000 chevy.
Re: Mapel Valley or other Auto service techs
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:52 am
by Joeyman
I'm about to blow the truck up. Light a match stick it in the gas tank and run as fast as I can.
seriously though its fustrating
Re: Mapel Valley or other Auto service techs
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:55 am
by Joeyman
heck overnight I left the keys in it with the doors unlocked hoping someone would steal it.

Re: Mapel Valley or other Auto service techs
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 12:25 pm
by maplehill
Not a mechanic or anything, but did find this on line. Click this thread.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/t940488 ... antly.html
Re: Mapel Valley or other Auto service techs
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 12:46 pm
by Joeyman
I've been to that link before. I read more into it and this only applies to vehicles that have the I believe its called VATTS something like that. Basically the GM cars that have the chip in the key. My truck doesn't have that. So therefore you can not bypass the security system like that.
I have reason to believe the security system for my truck is all in the key/tumbler. I spoke to one guy that said there is a box for the security which is located next to the radio unit inside the dash. Then I talked to another guy that said there is no box in the dash its all in the tumbler.
I think the tumbler needs replaced.
Maybe Jimmy will see this post here soon enough with him being a GM service tech he has to know something bout this.
Re: Mapel Valley or other Auto service techs
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 1:50 pm
by mtnwaykennel
I used to work at a chevy store for years ... and I contacted my main man there... He said the first thing to repalce would be a Lock Cylinder. The key position and security sensor is built into it and it comes as a whole unit. He said that the security system (with the light flashing, I had him check the video) is what is shutting the truck off. He said that if for some odd chance it is something else... better start tracing down wires because it has a short.
That came from Steve... my Chevy store shop manager... 26 years in the chevy buisness!!
hope this helps!
Bill Woods
Re: Mapel Valley or other Auto service techs
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 1:55 pm
by Joeyman
Alright you the man. Thats what I suspected as well. It was the lock cylinder. The security system in my truck is all built or tied into that cylinder. I had a semi-worn out key and switched to my spare (GM) key brand new condition and it didn't help. Maybe the cylinder is worn out.
This has been a nightmare.
Re: Mapel Valley or other Auto service techs
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 3:04 pm
by tenntreedog
HEy joey dont know about chevy trucks but I once had an oldsmobile that would just shut down while driving down the road replaced electronic control box fixed it.
Re: Mapel Valley or other Auto service techs
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 3:08 pm
by dogrunnerone
Best fix I can recommend is ..... Buy a Ford!!!!!
Re: Mapel Valley or other Auto service techs
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 4:48 pm
by Mapel Valley Kennels LLC.
Replace the ignition and have it re keyed. The tumblers go bad. If it is not a transmitter key with security it will be fine and not have to be programed. Hope this helps. Hey tull the good thing about a ford at least they circled the problem, a oval that is.

Re: Mapel Valley or other Auto service techs
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 6:41 pm
by Danny King
i have to agree with craig tull buy a ford lol