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I think extreme hunt is when the dog will go through anything to search for a rabbit, has no quit in him/her, will run all day long without any rest.

How many with these qualities have you seen? Me, maybe 1 or 2 in my 63 years. Course, I may just not be around the right type of dog.

Bob-Michigan

if you boys want to know if your dog has hunt take him to a plowed field and see if he blows out of there and goes to jump a rabbit

HLC_Kennel wrote:I think extreme hunt is when the dog will go through anything to search for a rabbit, has no quit in him/her, will run all day long without any rest.

I agree with you on this HLC. To me, a dog with extreme hunt will search out the thickest nastiest stuff around and do whatever it takes to get in there. I don't trial but have rabbit hunted with quite a few different beagles, all of which had various degrees of "hunt". There is one that stands out above the rest though. She was owned by a good friend of mine and her name was Stevie. No matter what type of terrain you were hunting she would go non-stop looking for rabbits and search out the thickest brush pile she could find. A lot of the land we hunted had old wood piles on them that you would have a tough time squeezing a tennis ball into. She would be all over those things until she squirmed her way in there because she knew chances were good that when she did finally get in, there would be a bunny waiting for her. If you were taking her accross an open field she would be pulling in the direction of the nearest briar bush. For some reason she just loved getting in the nasty. I haven't run with a dog like her since.

Definition of Extreme Hunt: Break O Day's Candy
Candy was not flashy she was conservative. When she jumped off the tail gate she trotted to the thickest spot in her view and entered. She would plow through the thickest briars and honeysuckle that you could imagine. She paid no attention to the other dogs unless they opened then she would honor their call. My hunting buddy was constanly commenting on how efficient with no wasted motion not zig zagging but moving with a purpose. She taught me the difference between dogs that hunt hard and dogs that are dedicated to finding rabbits. She is dead now but I still have a couple of her kin that hunt with the same dedication, but they are just not at her level of efficiency.

A hound that does not just run the trails, but gets into the brush and will jump a bunny out of his nest is what I call a hunting dog.

The best I ever saw was a grade female I owned back in the 60's. She just seemed to know where the rabbit was at and could jump one anytime of the day.

The best test I've seen for hunt is, go run hare every day/all day for a week, or as Elmer Gray used to do, go to Kanas hunting for a couple of weeks every day and see whose still standing at the end. When the body says no, desire is the only thing that will carry them off into the bushes...

My Belle bitch has very good hunt and will crawl on her belly through the thick stuff on command but what I like about her best is she is a great jump dog and has no quit in her day after day.
A dog I bought off fast eddy named Shallow Pond Yogi was hunt crazy with no regard for his well being...even when just trying to get to a rabbit in a thicket... he always came out bloody and ears shreaded, blood all over his body and face.
TBRabbitman had a dog we called "The Old Man" ..some called him "Butterball" that was a hunting machine and I seen him jump right in the nasty thorns to get to a rabbit. I miss hunting with the "Old Man." He had extreme hunt for sure.
I won't breed nor keep a dog that does not possess very good to extreme hunt.
Hunt is very important, as well as jump power.

I think stamina and grit along with hunt, has to be a priority. I have two "Spur" bred dogs, {great hunt but no stamina}. Another dog I got from down south "Weir Creek" breeding {great hunt but no grit} and I got a male off Jim Lane. Jim told me that the male I got from him was not a "lead" dog or a "flashy" dog and that he did nothing great or special, but he did everything ok and with no faults, but he would never quit. The Spur dogs have the most foot and can absolutely pound a rabbit and I would say have the most experience at ages 3 and 5. I have been off work for 10 days now and had a stretch where I hunted 5 days in a row. I hunted 6 to 8 hours non-stop all 5 days and jumped plenty of rabbits and had a lot of running. At the end of day 2, the weir Creek {2yr} dog was done. Though the spur dogs I consider to be my best dogs, they were done at the end of day 3, but I took them back out on day 4 and they were worthless. Day 5 I took the Weir Creek and the dog I got from Jim and killed 7 rabbits between my nephew and myself. So the dog that was nothing special, who was not the lead dog or was nothing flashy, which is 11 months old, kept me hunting when all the others quit. He hunted hard with grit and stamina all 5 days and I believe I could have gone 3 more days and he would have been just fine. So I think stamina and grit along with hunt means everything.

Dr. Chris wrote:I think stamina and grit along with hunt, has to be a priority. I have two "Spur" bred dogs, {great hunt but no stamina}. Another dog I got from down south "Weir Creek" breeding {great hunt but no grit} and I got a male off Jim Lane. Jim told me that the male I got from him was not a "lead" dog or a "flashy" dog and that he did nothing great or special, but he did everything ok and with no faults, but he would never quit. The Spur dogs have the most foot and can absolutely pound a rabbit and I would say have the most experience at ages 3 and 5. I have been off work for 10 days now and had a stretch where I hunted 5 days in a row. I hunted 6 to 8 hours non-stop all 5 days and jumped plenty of rabbits and had a lot of running. At the end of day 2, the weir Creek {2yr} dog was done. Though the spur dogs I consider to be my best dogs, they were done at the end of day 3, but I took them back out on day 4 and they were worthless. Day 5 I took the Weir Creek and the dog I got from Jim and killed 7 rabbits between my nephew and myself. So the dog that was nothing special, who was not the lead dog or was nothing flashy, which is 11 months old, kept me hunting when all the others quit. He hunted hard with grit and stamina all 5 days and I believe I could have gone 3 more days and he would have been just fine. So I think stamina and grit along with hunt means everything.

I agree with what you are saying, but what I want to know is, what's that dog's name you got from Jim? and who does it belong to?

That's the kinda stuff I like to hear about Jim's dogs cuae I got a couple coming to me this summer and plan on using to them to burn up bunnies mainly and use them in my breeding program

KesslerBeagles wrote:I agree with what you are saying, but what I want to know is, what's that dog's name you got from Jim? and who does it belong to?

You are the son of the Devil! Yes, he belongs to my wife. And yes, the dog's name is "McChris' Maverick" because thats how Jim sent the papers in to AKC. With friends like you guys..... And you tell Jim that I didn't forget about those signs or the rut in my yard.

Hunts all day whether gunning,packing or soloing 12-24 hours and would sleep in the woods and do it again the next day. Seen many that would do it.

EXTREME HUNT,,,,,,,, ,MAN THAT COVERS A LOT OF GROUND,,,I LIKE A HOUND WITH THE EXTREME HUNT AND EXTREME GAMENESS NO QUIT, WITH THE NOSE,, FOOT AND BRAINS TO DO IT RIGHT..,,,,,,,SOMETHING ''LIKE HUNTING MULTI FLORAL ROSE BUSHES MIXED WITH BLACK BERRY BRIARS ,WITH VINES SO THICK A SNAKE HAD TO WORK TO GET THROUGH THEM,FROM DAY LIGHT UNTIL DARK 7 DAY'S A WEEK AND NEVER HAVING TO CALL HIM OUT OF THE DOG HOUSE WAS WAITING ON YOU AT THE KENNEL GATE ,EVERY DAY OF HUNTING SEASON EXCEPT ONE AND I DIDN'T GO THAT DAY ,AND HUNT JUST AS HARD AT DARK AS IN THE MORNING JUMPING AND RUNNING,,,,,,AND RUNNING IN A TRIAL IN 95 DEGREE WEATHER, GETTING SNAKE BIT BY A COPPER HEAD THE JUDGE SAW HIM GET BIT AND WAS STILL GETTING CHECKS WE HAD TO RUN HIM DOWN,FRONT LEG SO SWELLED I COULD NOT TOUCH MY FINGER AND THUMB AROUND IT ,GOT AN EAR SPLIT IN A BARB WIRE FENCE I COULD HOLD IT APART AND SEE THROUGH IT A LITTLE SUPER GLUE AND BLUE COAT BACK IN THE RACE,TO MUCH MORE TO TELL IT ALL,BUT TO ME EXTREME HUNT WILL ALWAY'S MEAN,,,,,,,PINE MT VOO-DOO,BRED BY WAYNE GROSS,,,,,,,,RAISED AND HUNTED HERE,,,,,,,
KEEP'EM RUNNING
PINE MT BEAGLES

Dr. Chris,

If I had a dog like that I'd give that guy some more money!

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