land lease

[POWER]

What is the average cost of land leasing for hunting purposes?

[AlabamaSwamper]

Here in Bama it ranges from $3 to $20 an acre. Depending on where and who owns it.

[Little Dog]

For all game it is around $5 to $7.5 in KY and Southern IN. Now those Lease Brokers will try to get a lot more, but as supply has increased (farmers are starting to get on board) the prices went back down around here. The price goes up and down depending on what the land owner has.

We were leasing 2,600 just 45 minutes from Louisville at $5/acre when the land owners got wind they could get a lot more -- so they doubled our lease -- we could not/would not pay that and walked. 6 months later they were back with the old offer. So I'd say it is under $10 to consistantly lease deer ground. Now land holding ducks -- that is crazy high. It really depends on what you got and who else wants it and what you will be allowed to do on the property. I'm the only rabbit hunter on the place -- BUT IT HAS GOT NO FREAKIN RABBITS! Actually we got a few, but they love to hole or something, cause my dogs always have trouble with em.

[Valpoguy]

Wow! About 20 years ago, my son and I hunted a ranch in south-central Colorado - our tresspass fee to hunt about 36 sections of land was 2 cases of Coors beer. Guess I'll stick to state land and friendly farmers.

[power]

I TRULY HATE THE IDEA OF LEASING. BUT IT HAS GOTTEN TO WHERE I CANNOT HUNT (DEER) ANYWHERE HERE. OUT OD STATERS AND CHICAGOANS JUST PUSH RIGHT IN ON YOU. WHETHER THEY KNOW YOU ARE THERE OR NOT.
SO I GUESS I WILL TRY TO SPEND A LITTLE CASH ON A GOOD SPOT.

[Guest]

here in southern wv leases run fom 1.00 to 1.25 a acre we just leased 1500 acres for a thousand dollars a year great rabbit country on abandon strip mine property good deer hunting too if ya bow hunt no gun season here where i live only bow theres 4 countys that have been closed to gun season for over 25 years (big bucks) but tuff to get up with

[Little Dog]

Power, it is a shame we can't all have good places to hunt for free. Actually, years ago as a very young man I lost a good spot to a lease and I felt different at that time, but things change and I’ve come to understand.

The simple fact is landowners want/need more than a thank you or a hard days work for our trespass rights and leasing is here to stay. I come from Mississippi were I had more free places to hunt than I could utilize (big family and lots of friends). When I moved pretty far from home it was hard to find good spots to hunt. I did work for farmers, and knocked on a lot of doors with some success, but often I missed a lot of opening days because family or old friends come first. I understood this and never got mad, but it was very disappointing. To me leases were the answer to breaking what I often called the good ole boy network.

I do worry that leases leave out people of lessor means, but most hunters I know spend a lot of money on guns, licenses, clothes, treestands, ATVs, calls, dogs, dog boxes, gimmick gear and endless other stuff. Then these same hunters have a hard time shelling something to a farmer to help him/her make ends meet and keep that land.

I’ve heard money is the root of all evil, and I hope we don’t end up like England where hunters are mostly from the "upper crust" but for now I take what crumbs I can get.

Power, why is it you don’t like city folks or nonresidents? I for one embrace all hunters from all walks of life and places. I’ve never understood that reasoning – those folks are just fellow hunter who are more like you and I than most nonhunters. The last I checked those men and women in our armed forces fighting overseas are not fighting for this or that state, but for the UNITED States of America. I deplore the license fees some states slap on fellow hunters for crossing such and such line or river, just because they have no say so. Most states Fish and Game departments are supported by hunter’s license fees not state tax dollars so it really makes no common reasoning, but hunters from somewhere else are easy to pick on.

I know a lot of people feel these folks are moving in on them, but the simple fact is everyday we lose more and more ground and it gets tighter and tighter so something has got to give. I wish there was no need for leases, but it just ain’t so.

[michwolv]

was wondering if anyone new of any land lease in central ohio im in mansfield and need some spots to rabbit hunt or deer hunt, i got pleanty of running spots but would like to get some hunting land

[power]

1. I DON'T LIKE THE CHIGAGO HUNTERS BECAUSE HERE THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO HUNT AND ARE EXTREMEMLY DANGEROUS. ONE AREA I HAVE PERMISSSION TO HUNT IS 200 ACRES DIVIDED BY A GRAVEL ROAD. I STAYED ON THE SOUTH SIDE THEY HUNTED THE NORTH. THE NORTH WAS MUUUUUUUCH MORE WOODED. BUT AFTER SEEING SOME OF MY SUCCESS THEY STARTED MOVING ACCROSS THE ROAD AND TRYING TO HUNT BASICALLY ON TOP OF ME. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A BETTER SPOT THAN I. BUT ARE TRYING TO PUSH ME OUT.
THEY ALSO SHOOT IN ANY DIRECTION WHETHER THEY THINK SOMEONE IS THERE OR NOT. LAST YEAR THEY SHOT A DOE IN THE CORNFIELD NEXT TO ME AT NOON FROM A FREAKING PICK-UP. THEY PARKED THEIR CAR RIGHT IN THE DEERUN CONNECTING ONE PATCH OF WOODS TO THE NEXT. I WATCHED 3 DOES JUST TURN THE OTHER DIRECTION WHEN THEY SAW IT PARKED THERE.
2. THE GUYS FROM TENN. AND ALA. DON'T EVEN HAVE PERMISSION TO BE HERE AND PAY NO ATTENTION TO NO HUNTING SIGNS. THEY JUST KNOW SOMEONE WHO LIVES DOWN THE ROAD. AT LEAST THE CHICAGO GUYS PAY ILL. TAXES.


IN CLOSING THE BASIC PROBLEM IS THEY ALL DON'T LIVE HERE. THEY ARE ALL VERY PUSHY. NONE OF THEM CARE TO SIT RIGHT ON TOP OF YOU. AND I DON'T GO OUT OF STATE TO HUNT WHY SHOULD THEY. DON'T THEY HAVE DEER N ALA. AND TENN. ? ISNT THERE GOOD PLACES TO HUNT IN NORTHERN ILL. INSTEAAAD OF DRIVING DOWN HERE?

[New York Hillbilly]

At the prices that are being tossed around for leases, I would say it is still a bargain. I own approx 200 acres here in N.Y. and my taxes for the so called right to own the place is now about 3,500.oo a year. That is why I post my land and take only those that I choose to hunt with on my place. It would be cheaper for me and less agravating to sell out and just take a guided hunt each year and skip all the hassle. The only reason I keep it is so I and my family have a safe place to hunt without fear of being shot at by others. Unreasonable fear? Not when you consider that there have been several people shot over the past ten years in this area, two of them fatalities. What is unreasonable is the people that feal they somehow should have the right to run free over others property. I think if a farmer, or land owner can recover some of the costs involved in land ownership good for them. I have had people scream at me when asked to leave when caught trespassing but never had one offer to split the tax bill for the privledge of remaining. Let me see now! Ten dollars an acre for 1000 acres = 10,000 dollars and then divide that by the five guys in our party would be 2000 dollars each. Right? Still a lot less than I pay and we would have five times the land. Go one more step and figure a club with 25 members for a thousand acres and what would that be a piece? 400.00 an acre is a real bargain! Just my 2cents! Which is all I have left after the tax bill!!
NYH

[Little Dog]

Most leases work it out so it costs around $400 to $500 a man. It isn’t too bad when you consider everybody has different interests. We got guys concentrating on turkey, some on ducks and other on deer and very few rabbit hunt. Some places I am the only rabbit hunter. Now if that sounds like a lot of money just consider what NY Hillbilly said about the taxes. We probably don’t even cover that, but it helps the landowner some. Still, I wish we all had good places to hunt without the crowds. Progress is not always good for us hunters.

Power, I neither consider myself to be from the city or country, but have lived in what most would consider both. I was a US Marine and grew up in the sticks with a gun in my hand, yet I am a white-collared CPA and I know how to handle a gun better than most. Your generalizations do not offend me but that is what they are – generalizations, which are full of holes. You’ve had some bad experiences, but I’d say you could get that from anywhere or anybody. To be honest, most folks around me (in the country) are less in line with laws such as spot lighting deer and whatnot, whereas many of the city guys I know would not consider that. Spotlighting or not tagging game is often a way of life for many rural types. What happened to you is wrong. Power, I do hope you have better luck this season.

[Little Dog]

I must be in an argumentative mood this week. I usually stay out of this stuff.

Power – I was generalizing also – it was to prove a point. My sarcasm does not come through in typed words and after rereading my post I realized that.

I’m prohunter and antidumb butts, you just never know were they will come from.

[power]

Actually I didnt generalize. I feel I only expresed my feelings about these certain un-gentlemen.
Just because I named there locales meant nothing as to saying anyone from those places are the same.
My biggest problem is with the state. They could control this better. I heard (may be wrong) Iowa has no out of staters now. I wish ill. would take care of their citezens the same way.
We have too many deer.(notice I didnt say bucks) Guys who spend $1000 -$$10, 000 each year to hunt do not want to shoot a meat deer. (doe ,small buck) Big-boys only!
Eventually the state is going to go to a professional system of removing these excess deer.(snipers,trap and release somewhere else, birth control and etc.)
This will happen with the onslaught of leasing. And those of you that dont believe this will afffect your rabbit spots are wrong.
Ithink aside from stopping out of staters they could have a earn - a - buck program. Basically you ahve to shoot a doe before shooting a buck.
local season prior to open season allowing out of staters. ANYTHING IS BETTER THAN THE ROAD WE ARE TAKING!

[Emery]

I will have to agree with POWER about the people from Chicago. I deer hunt back where I grew up, it used to be that people from Chicago would drive that far north and go sit in the woods drinking beer and shooting anything that moved. Leaving their beer cans in the woods and endangering everyone in the vicinity. I haven't seen too many of them in recent years and for that I am greatful.

As for Little Dog, the saying goes, "The love of money is the root of all evil." Not just money...

Just my 2 cents worth...

Emery