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I can't say the name on here but there is a real crook in Tenn. I have hauled 2 dogs for him this year and I feel bad for the dogs, they were just plain old yard dogs, the new owners said they didn't even jump when rabbits ran around them. Felt sorry for the owners, they were out their money plus what they paid me. The last dog the crook told the new owner that my price was $125 and when we got there that was all the money the man (new owner) had. The crook said he would send me the rest that was owed. Well he didn't. Last night a man called and said the crook told him I picked up his 2 beagles Monday. He wanted to know when I would deliver them. I told him the guy is a crook and I will not haul for him. This man is out $600 and doesn't have any dogs and it is too far for him to go collect on some good old fashion whoop arse which I recommended he do. Wish I could post his name on here but I am sure that isn't allowed but if someone calls me or e mails I guess I could tell

Made a mistake, not TN, he is at London KY

Buckeye Dog wrote:Made a mistake, not TN, he is at London KY

Thanks for the heads up, now I won't buy no KY dogs It sucks when people rip others off, beaglers on average are very honest people but a few bad eggs ruin everything.

I honestly think ALL Crooked scamers should be exposed .
Names , Locations and any important information .

This os to beniffit any dog owners, buyers and would be's.
There are crooks all over, And the ones doing this kinda crap
Absolutely should be Known to all !!!
Im freakin tired of these kind of people being protected , by being politicly correct
and not exposeing them .

"DixieDog"
Dont let One Bad apple spoil everyone in Ky, Think about It !!!
Ky has some very good Beaglers and Honest one's too !!!

hey buckeye hows it going ya been hauling lots of dogs thought i had one to ky last week ya ever haul out of ky if so who ya been hauling for jb

Buckeye Dog wrote:Made a mistake, not TN, he is at London KY

There is a lot of good people in Kentucky but this rat needs exposed. When that man called me about 9 Wed night it just made me sick, he thought I had his new dogs on my trailer and was so anxious to get them and I had to tell him. He wired the money to the crook so can't even do a stop pay on a check. I don't know what all boards that crook goes on but I will be honest and tell you all who he is. I just have computer at night and morning when I am off the road but you can call me too 740-236-0578. I feel bad for the people, they lose their money but I also feel bad for the dogs cause they are no more than yard dogs or pets and will end up getting shot, dumped or abused and it isn't the dogs fault this crook sold them as hunters, they could be nice dogs for someone that doesn't want a hunter

I'd say expose them here for ALL to see. Don't wait till it's too late and another person gets burnt and more dogs suffer. JMT

hounddog
Jim Umbarger

I say expose him so others are not burnt. I can vouch that Mary Ann is tops in the dog hauling business and her word is good.
Ed Kittle
Zanesville, Ohio

expose him

Exposing is good, but you don't know who to believe. I saw on beaglesforsaleonline that the Alpine Kennel guy in Georgia, and yes I know he is a board member here, was buying up grade dogs cheap and selling them as AKC Gay bred hounds. But, is this the truth? I don't know. It could be a lie, but it is not the first public accusation against this man. Still I do not know that he has done anything wrong.

I do know that I have sold grade dogs and later had to run against them at AKC licensed trials. That was before DNA and it is just your word against his.

It's hard to sell a good dog now, gas is high, and money is tight. If you price them cheap people automatically think they are no good, if you price them high people simply cannot afford the expense. That is why so many are for sale, that and the crooks taking people's money for nothing.

Hey Buckeye, Where is the guy that DID NOT get his dogs if he aint to awful far from me I have one I may just give him. She ain't no barn burner but she'll jump and run a rabbit. Just a little slow for my likeing. I used her for a pup starter and don't need her any more. Get ahold of me by PM or something

Larry G if Mary Ann says he's a crook,he's a crook. Mary Ann you ought to expose this guy...

He is selling on beagles on line so I am going to that site also. I would list his name but I don't think that is allowed. I have had over 50 requests as to who he is and some told me they had already heard about him. I can just tell you all and you can believe or not or ask around about him and if you want to spread the word and put him out of selling that is good.l

I live in London KY, and I would like to know who it is giving the rest of us a bad name. PM me and let me know.!.

Mary ann
Thanks for bringing this to our attention.
We as dog owners / Hunters have the right to police our selves
We have to , NO Body is going to do it for us .
I belong to another forum as many of us do also.
But this forum also has a Magizine published every month,
in the magizine they have a Section Called
"Hall of Shame" its for crooks to be exposed to protect others
from becomming a Victom . When these scumbags get caught
and arrested its Public record.
Now taking some mans or womans money and not delivering the dog
its now a crime. Its not just ( I shoulda known better ) kind of deal here.

There is just to many scamers out here today, without them being exposed
publicly how are we all to know . Now granted they have to be proved a crime has
actualy taken place. Which means some ole boy or girl will have to prosicute.
But if that is not done these scumbags will just keep on doing wrong .
We have to draw the line in the sand, and get it stopped . It all boils down
to spreading the word Owner to owner & Hunter to Hunter .

This kind of Crud has got be stopped.
Id like to see all forums in the Dog and Hunting world have a
"HALL OF SHAME " and sink the crooks boat !!!

Again Thank you for bringing it up !
Sincerely
Randy Underwood