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220 conibears

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:43 am
by Bartels
what precuations do you guys take to keep your dogs out of traps? I was just talking to a guy that lost his best dog in a 220 last season .No one was suppose to be trapping on the farm it happened but some sneak had one set on the fence line a bucket set with a rabbit carcas :roll:

pray...

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:06 am
by xdawg
the only precaution is to make every effort not to put your dogs down where there is trapping going on...

past that, pray...

jack

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:20 pm
by Drop_tine
Ain't much hope for a dog that sticks their head in one of them.

my father inlaw

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:07 pm
by Bartels
had a big coon hound get in one and it lived but I don't think a beagle would stand a chance :cry:

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:02 pm
by coolbrze
Pick up your traps before you run your dogs there, thats what we do on our farm.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:08 pm
by paz
I had a female get nailed by one. We got lucky and she was fine. Scared the poop out of me!! :shock:

Right after we got her loose, she went right back to hunting!!! I was amazed.

The trap was close to another one that had an old dead coon in it, looks like some rogue traps. :angryfire:

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:07 pm
by BOUTTIMEIV
in ohio your not allowed to set a conibeir on land that big,a 160 I believe is the largest.Everything else has to be set in water and submerged.
Mark

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:21 pm
by beaglebob
Guys, I am new here mostly lurking and learning. I got my first hound in May, but have been trapping for over 20 years. Let me first say that I have never caught a dog in a 220. I must say that I have seen some really bad set up in my time. 220's are set for Coon and and Fisher thats it. You will get skunks and possums and a rare mink or weasel but NO ONE that I know targets possums or skunks and it is poor on the other 2. Next let me say that Rabbit not a high percentage bait on coon and so any trapper worth their salt would not use it unless targeting fisher. 220s and dogs can co- exsit with the use of a fruit or sweet smelling lure or bait. NOTHING is fool proof but it will help with about 90% of the dogs. In addition I would not use buckets, it gives the illusion that there is alots of room and nearly 100% of the guys using buckets will have short or no notches for the springs to sit in, this causes the trap to be thrown back far on a dogs head causing a almost always fatal blow. To eliminate a dog from springing the trap I use a wooden box with a 6" over hanging roof, with 8" notches cut in the sides. The trap is set in the middle of the notch. It can not be thrown out of the box. With a set up like that a dog can not get far enough inside the box to alow the trap to get behind the ears. If on the RARE occasion a dog actully gets far enough to get in the box to fire the trap in will hit them across the nose and they will be able to pull themselfs free with a bruised nose.

PS this doesn't apply to "mini" breeds or lapdogs they are small enough to run straight in. and again NOTHING is fool proof.

Thanks for letting me ramble

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:46 am
by Bartels
bob thanks for the reply I'm afraid this was not a responsible trapper that set this trap :roll: alot of the ones I see around here while bird hunting are baited with fish

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:07 pm
by beaglebob
Fish is often the number one choice for Coon trappers, and you sure have a ton of coon there. Fish is not normally a bad atractor because most dogs will pass on it and is better than fruity smells when your season is open. Still the buckets bother me. A foot trap is a better way to go where land gets hunted that hard, only problem is the many hunters will steal a foot trap that has caught their dog. Me, I would rather let my hound out of a foot trap than a 220, normally the hunt is done with the 220.