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Warfield Red

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 9:36 am
by AlabamaSwamper
Bev brought this dog up so I am going to ask a question that might sound stupid. :oops: :?:

I have always heard and on occasion seen a "warfield red" and my uncle used to raise these colored dogs.

Was this dog a warfield red or was he the origin of these colored hounds. Just a question and probably sounds stupid and I imagine that those colors was around way before he was.

Red

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 9:53 am
by roygu
Warfield Red was a FC back in the 40's I believe. He wasn't even red in color. He must have been a great producer because his genes still dominate today. ;)
For some reason his name is catchy and dog dealers still promote his legacy to trap the unsuspecting sucker. (My opinion)

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 10:27 am
by AlabamaSwamper
FC in the 40's. That would make him a brace hound, am I right. I don't have anything with him in my peds but this ? was just something on my mind.

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 10:29 am
by S.R.Patch
Walter Bredemeier(the old man) told me he had went to Indy and bred to Warfield Red one time. Said the hound was a tri color and Bennet said he was named after his kennelman. Now, I don't know if the(kennelman) fellow's last name was Warfield but I'm guessing it probably was and if he was a red headed fellow, they probably called him "Red". So this has always been my understanding of the way it may have been.
It is a catchy name and many have put it to the red color of a hound for years, just as many have put the Patch name to many of the white hounds. Remember, the color of the hide, don't tell what's inside...Patch

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 10:31 am
by AlabamaSwamper
LOL!!! That was a good one patch.

WARFIELD RED

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 10:32 am
by wingpatch
ROYGU
You are right, Warfield REd was tri colored. I have seen a picture of him on one of the web sites if i can find it i will post it .
Wingpatch

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 10:37 am
by S.R.Patch
No Bama, I am being truthful...Patch

Brace trials

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 10:38 am
by roygu
Swamper, Brace Trial beagles in the 40's were not the Brace Trial beagles we have seen in the past thirty years. The beagle was the most popular AKC breed in THE 50's. They didn't become so popular by being hobby hounds. They were useful rabbit dogs.

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 10:42 am
by AlabamaSwamper
My bad Patch, I was referring to your last sentence. I found it funny I guess. It was an eye catcher for sure. I wasn't questioning the post at all.

WARFIELD RED

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 10:47 am
by wingpatch
Warfield red is listed on online pedigrees

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 10:52 am
by S.R.Patch
No problem Bama, the written word is hard to express intent and many good people have gotten off on the wrong foot because of misunderstanding or taking it wrong. That's the short fall of these boards...Patch ;)

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 10:56 am
by CHAD_PLUNKETT
He was try colored. At this years spo nationals they had 2 old hounds and hunting magazines there for everyone to look at that had his picture in it. Those old books were neat to look at. Most of the stud prices ranged from $15 to $25. Im going to ask my grandad if he ever got to see him run. I'm curios about his running style now.

Warfield Red

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 4:07 pm
by J.C. Blair
A lot of people that own red beagles will say they have Warfield Reds. Like everyone has said he was a tricolor and probably his impact on red dogs bloodlines today is almost insignificant. I just dont understand why these people have to use this name to sell these red dogs. If these dogs were red and had him in their pedigree you probably couldnt find Warfield Red in their pedigree in at least the 7th or 8th generation. I am like everyone else its become a catchy name among red dogs. C'mon guys just call em red dawgs....lol

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 5:19 pm
by Guest
Red was out of grays captain who was out of gray's linesman.He was a tri-color.The story that I have heard was that he was named after a neighbor's farmhand.I do not know if that is true or not.It is just a name that caught on.back in the late 60's we had some stuff that went back to those lines.I think that Linesman went back to yellow creek but I might be mistaken on that.

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 5:24 pm
by cooper
Wingpatch have you had any luck on finding that pic of Warfield red? Every old timer around here says they have a warfield bred beagle just because they have a red/white beagle. Anybody know for sure when he was alive? I heard he died around 1960. I sure would like to have a pic to show some of the old timers around here. Tom Gross