The American Beagler Forum

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW PEOPLES OPINIONS ON BREEDING A FATHER TO A DAUGHTER?--JUST WONDERING--

Many on here will say ah helll yeah go for it... worst that can happen is you knock a few in the head... and if you can figure a way to breed dad to himself, that's cool too.

A father x daughter cross is only 75%
If these individuals are excellent then i guess it wouldn't hurt to try. I owned a female out of a father daughter cross. She was a nice rabbit dog, nothing flashy but PRODUCED better offspring than herself!

Unless you have mild defects in your hounds they should be physically fine? You will however see what recessive genes are hidden in your hounds up close! Run, feed, and evaluate... hopefully you get a great one!

Let us know in a year or two how they turned out,

LPB

If they are the two best beagles in the world give it some consideration.

What if the are the ONLY two beagles in the world? LOL....Just a joke!

Here is an interesting article about in-breeding and Line-breeding.

http://bullmarketfrogs.com/articles/can ... ograms.htm

Leah

Windkist wrote:Here is an interesting article about in-breeding and Line-breeding.

http://bullmarketfrogs.com/articles/can ... ograms.htm

Leah

VERY informative article, thanks!

I have a female at my friends kennel doing this very samething in the next couple of days. It is ok every 5 generations or so, or the mothers side of the breeding is different, mine is an outcross. this was the intent. Will let you know how they turn out.

Windkist wrote:Here is an interesting article about in-breeding and Line-breeding.

http://bullmarketfrogs.com/articles/can ... ograms.htm

Leah

that is his opion. not fact. fact would be yellow creek hounds losing there voice and running silent because they were inbreed to much. othere facts. i have seen more inbreed line breed hounds die early from health promblems heart, kidney, liver, and others. but thats my opion. and i would not think of breeding a father daughter cross.

I rarely do a really close breeding but, I just recently did a 1/2 bro 1/2 sis breeding and the puppies are really nice. I hopefully doubled up on those qualities that I wanted and didn't get anything to worry about. I will be keeping these a little longer than most litters to make sure though and will monitor them closely throughout their lives. I'm 11 years into my beagles and feel like I know what Qualities and problems I have. Inbreeding is certainly not for those that are new or dont' have a long term goal in mind. I do think it sets type and characteristics that are important but, be prepared for anything ;-)

Leah

leah, close inbreeding shouldnt be done by a back yard breeder or a puppy mill. i have ben around beagle all my life. i have seen 1/2 brother1/2 sister cross that worked great. but the next breeding was a complete out cross. and those pups were great. there is more junk floating around know then there ever was. every one trying to make a buck and breeding junk. i have seen brood bithchs for sale that were never started stricktly used for breeding. how in the hell can a man judge what would make her better if he never started her. i dont get it. i used to be a very trusty man when buying a beagle pup from another. but with all the BS and the flat lie's it's tough.

Father to Daughter is always a touchy subject.Best if most stay far away from it. My thoughts are this = If you own a dog thats the best you have ever had and you need to keep your blood as strong as possible to keep him alive in future generations, then in order to obtain your line or blood
The cross should be made, the results i have personally witnessed may not produce your wonder pup but the next generation is usally very effident of the cross with traits very similar to the results you wish to achieve. This cross has produced several positive results as well as junk.
This goal is not only reachable but touchable.I have made it several people have made it and i will continue to make it in my program in years
to come . Jmho.
Jimbo

Planned matings on paper only show “paper percentages”. For example – looking at the pedigree of a litter of pups from breeding Sire A to his daughter would give you the impression that the pups were 75% Sire A and 25% daughter. But that’s only genetic percentages on paper - not traits. In reality 95% of the traits those pups exhibit may be those of one of the parents while exhibiting few or no traits from the other. Or worse yet, those same pups may exhibit very few or even none of the traits from EITHER parent. What all this boils down to is that you'll never know until you try it. You just need to ask yourself "what is the goal of this breeding?".

There are two kinds of beaglers. Those who want to hunt over and breed dogs from established bloodlines, (which were established by in-breeding) and those who want to better the breed. In-breeding is often 1 step forward and 3 steps back. Thats why it takes generations to achieve goals. BUT, when those goals are achieved it is locked in. This is all done with a cocktail of all breeding stratagies. Ya gotta be willing to knock the little retards in the head tho or ya ain't helping nobody.

Jimmie, I'm onboard!! Put me down for one from that future cross. If it happens I don't care if I have to wait 4 years.

Greg,
My opinion is like me not very popular. . Check out your pups aunt on searching for info. She has been a secert for awhile . When these pups get weaned , the secert is out . My thoughts have not been very popular over the years. Thats ok with me. I breed and feed for me.Guess i am pretty happy , and still going. Just like a good old pair of jeans.