bad cliff or turbo

poormann100 · Post by **poormann100** » Fri May 12, 2006 8:55 pm

looking for stud out of cliff or turbo... western pa- eastern ohio

CORNERSTONE · Post by **CORNERSTONE** » Fri May 12, 2006 8:59 pm

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xdawg · Post by **xdawg** » Fri May 12, 2006 9:34 pm

I was thinking Bad Cliff is still alive.... In Charleston, WV....

-Jack

CORNERSTONE · Post by **CORNERSTONE** » Fri May 12, 2006 9:47 pm

I was thinking I seen him not long ago in a mag.....................Chip Eisenhut Kennels .....maybe

xdawg · Post by **xdawg** » Fri May 12, 2006 10:19 pm

http://www.eisenhutdogsupplies.com/dogs/cliff.htm

thornie · Post by **thornie** » Sat May 13, 2006 3:24 am

I have a grandson out of him here in Ohio. He's AKC, UKC, PKC, and ARHA registered. He's in the select sire program. CH HBCH, needs 5 points to champion in ARHA. His name is CH HBCH Thornsley's Muddpuddlin George. If you need more information call 740-622-6995 or email. I will show this dog in the field any way you want to see him go.

Roy Pasmore · Post by **Roy Pasmore** » Sat May 13, 2006 4:33 am

Thornies George dog has pups on the ground that or tuff I run with HBC
Mud puddlin Abby out of him all the time as well as George. Beleave me when they run all the hair hyde and some of the meat off thier tail they or not standing around. Roy

LaMarr Rhoades · Post by **LaMarr Rhoades** » Sun May 14, 2006 8:19 am

george is a very nice dog.i really liked him

Chip E · Post by **Chip E** » Sun May 14, 2006 1:27 pm

Cliff is still alive but has not produced any pups for about 2 years. He is almost 14 years old and still doing well, I have 3 females out of him that is stilldoing really good. I do know where there is a male out him close to me in WV.
Thanks Chip Eisenhut

HatterasBob · Post by **HatterasBob** » Mon May 15, 2006 7:48 am

Turbo stuff seems to be the hot genes in the mid-west. I never saw him run and he is producing well especially when crossed with Ninja. My thoughts are that Turbo is not the man, Heli-Prop was. Terry McBride has stated Heli-Prop is the finest beagle he has even seen run and what made Jack a great producer is producing Heli-Prop. That being said, unfortunately, the closest your can get to Turbo is a son or daughter, which is a grandson or granddaughter to Heli-Prop. Why breed to a son or daughter of Turbo when there are quality studs out there directly out of Heli-Prop? JMHO

Big Boy Patch · Post by **Big Boy Patch** » Mon May 15, 2006 4:12 pm

Thonie I thought George Champion out when our Lucy dog did at Charm

xdawg · Post by **xdawg** » Mon May 15, 2006 4:26 pm

What all males are left out of Heli Prop? Could you list the studs name and bottom side...?

Thanks,
Jack

thornie · Post by **thornie** » Mon May 15, 2006 4:45 pm

Big Boy Patch,
I did to until I got home and counted his points. If dad would have let me win that would have finished him but now for sure he needs 5 points.

johny · Post by **johny** » Wed May 17, 2006 1:37 pm

I have seen Turbo and his offspring. I prefer the Turbo dogs to the Heli-prop dogs for these reasons: 1. They have better hunt 2. They have good foot without sacrificing line control. 3. I have seen more quality dogs off of Turbo bred to different bitches. What I mean to say is that there have been several different bitches bred to Turbo with consistent characteristics. I am not downplaying Heli-prop, just seems that he produced good dogs being bred to certain bitches. 4. Better looking pups.

These are just my opinions so please don't take offense, just trying to help. Good Luck.

BIG AL · Post by **BIG AL** » Thu May 18, 2006 12:05 pm

There is a dog named Rocket in the Sissonville WV area that is out of Turbo that you may want to look at. Real impressive dog. Not far from Charleston. The dog is owned by Jeff Haynes and Paul Bonham.

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