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When a stud dog owner says a current Brucelloisis test is required for breeding to his stud dog, What is considered current? Can i get one done on my bitch now and in a month im ready for breeding or does it need to be a day or two? What is considered current?

Within 10 days of breeding for me.

it is the stud owners descretion.

Shouldn't we also ask when the last test was done on the stud dog to protect our bitches??

John O

fulcount wrote:Shouldn't we also ask when the last test was done on the stud dog to protect our bitches??

John O

By all means YES I had a stud dog owner laugh and told me that I was the first to insist on it. That stud is more likely to have Brucelosis than a bitch that was never bred or one that was only bred once or twice......................Just My

I always tell my customers that it must be within the first 2 weeks and it is best if the vet can add some distinguishing marks to the text, how many black toe nails, frosted left ear, etc. If someone is studding out their male, they should test the male every 6 months if he is used much at all and you should be able to ask for one for the male with out question. That's what I do.

CLH
Why 6 months for a stud and only 2 weeks for a bitch that hasn't been bred since last heat cycle. This is a very good topic and I think a hard one to answer. The male seems like would neee to be checked a lot more than a bitch since he is coming in contact with more than one mate.

what if they test positive

A short summary of http://www.beaglesunlimited.com/beagleh ... llosis.htm

Kennels with active stud dogs should never breed a male to an untested female. The test on the female should be 7 days or less old and an original with the vet's letterhead and showing an original signature, complete address, and current phone number. Kennels should even test their own bitches before breeding them to their own males since brucellosis is not simply a sexually transmitted disease; it can be picked up anywhere that a healthy dog can come in contact with an infected dog's bodily fluids which is everywhere other dogs go such as boarding kennels, dog boxes, dog trailers, hunting fields, field trial club grounds, starting/running pens, and even city parks.

Transmission between dogs occurs via mucous membranes, so the bacteria may enter the body through the nose, mouth, conjunctiva of the eye, and vagina. The majority of bacteria in infected dogs are secreted in semen and vaginal secretions, but bacteria may be present in milk, urine and saliva as well. Thus any bodily fluids can infect another dog.

Brent

I still stand by what I stated earlier. But I should've added that the stud should be tested every 6 months if all bitchs he has been bred to were also tested negative. TheBman, I don't believe everything I read but I believe just about everything my vet tells me. He is a trailer too but with bird dogs, same thing. This is what he has told me and I don't ask any questions. I think why beaglesunlimited made this statement so as to limit questionable tactics by some people who would us one test to cover more than one bitch. That's why my vet said to have the bitch's owner's vet state some kind of distinguishable marks for her. That would limit it's use for one bitch only. To answer Joeyman's question, I believe the dog is done, there is no known cure.

I agree that an Identifiable means of proof your breeding the right dog is a good idea, hadn't considered that.

I posted what I copied from beagles unlimited because some people think it is only transmitted sexually,.. social contact is enough. and it can be picked up about anywhere your hound is in contact with other dogs. My point being, if a stud was tested say 6 months ago, but has been trialed or mixed with a wide variety of other dogs since the last test, the possiblity exist that infection "could" have occurred, I would want a more current testing on him as well. Just something to consider.

I agree with you in most part, TheBman. But I'm not about to test my male every breeding at $40 to $50 a pop. No one that I know of will do that let alone every 6 months. Another option is to artifically insemenate, (hope I spelled that right).

It is certainly better to be safe then sorry. With said, I am just curious, has anyone ever seen or heard of a positive test on a female ? I had a female tested little over a year ago, and the Vet stated that "in his 40 years of pratice he had never seen a positive test".
I happened be in the office of a different Vet the other day, and brought the subject up per/ this thread, and this Doctor also stated that "in over 30 years of pratice he had never seen a positive test".

It is good that we share slightly differnet opinions, I think it helps shed differnt lights and thoughts on the subject.

My particular veternarian's wording was something "similar" to.....You control your dogs and what they are exposed to. if you are breeding for your own use once a year and are exposed only to 'known" safe dogs, have them checked prior to mating, if your stud is being used by others, protect your investment and test every 3 months if he is being used more frequently than that. If your dogs are exposed "heavily" to other dogs, have them checked more frequently.

That of course is if I understood him correctly and that was his advice to me. For me, if I have 1 particular bitch that means enough to breed, I want a current test on the stud.

My preference is to take the bitch and my male to my vet to be tested. The cost is $64 for both. My male is well worth the expense and so is the female or I wouldn't be breeding to her. The vet uses a lab test that must be sent out. A test done in the AM does not yeild results until the next afternoon. I would not breed my female to a stud not tested immediately prior to the breeding. The owner of the female pays 50 plus the stud fee. Dan M Touchstone Kennels