The American Beagler Forum

Who is the most influential stud dog and the most influential dam since 1990 and why?

And I don't want to hear about Aunt Catherine's neighbor's dog Spike who can run a dwarf rabbit like nobody's seen.

Well, Don's Buckeye Patch gave me good puppies and those from Royal Falcon Patch X Northwind Patch Spirit were good also.

ooops, didn't read the last part of you post...sorry
I bet your wanting to hear about fieldtrial dogs arn't you...

IFC Maravic's Blue Ninja
IFC Brankos HeliProp
IFC Brankos Ali-Baba
IFC Haunted Hill Shaker

Stonehedge Nifty Girl
Haunted Hill Halo
IFC Squirrel Creek Angie
FTC Squirrel Creek Cinder

Mark,
I can't argue with a thing you said. Souldn't Jack of All Trades and Anna's Ann be included since 1990 or were they dead by then?

Jack of All Trades in my humble opinion has been the most influential dog in history. I dont know a whole lot but look at the list he has produced.

Heli-Prop
Ninja
Magic Touch
Lumberjack

and several others. The thing about these dogs is they all inturn produced well themselves. But when you talk about Jack you have to talk about Trimmer two. He seemed like he was a good one.

Nortway Spur. He produced-
Northway Ninja
Nortway Jumpmaster
Northway Driver
Milts Woodstock Rockstar

I think Jack was dead about 1992 or 1993. Of course he would be top of the list, but figured he was done for the most part by the mid 90's. Ninja was born in 90, Prop 87, Baba 89 and Shaker 93 so they were in their prime by the mid 90's. Same for the bitches. Halo, Angie and Cinder might be streching the 90's as most of their pups finished early 2000's.

IFC Round Pond Mr T
IFC Melanson Ranger Dan
IFC Maravic's Blue Ninja
FTC Otterbrook Top Dog

I guess its good to read the question in it's entireity huh?

i would have to say

mt. Zion Pete
Jack of all trades
Haunted hills shaker
northway spur

and females

annas ann
squirrel creek angie
brankos close call girl

Shorts Pro

I think he has 54 Field Champions out there now. Alot more with places that havent finished yet.

Are these hounds AKC, ARHA, NKC, UKC or I think there is a CKC also?? Just wondering, oh ya, think I saw a PKC some place tooo!!!! Are all their judges fair or are these hounds owned by the friends of judges??

Rich Piacentine

I can't believe non of you aren't hammering me here yet,, whats wrong,, I'm screwing with you all.. Ya'll used to have thin skinss!!!!!

Rich Piacentine

As far as studs go I would say the following:

FTC Branko's Jack of All Trades
FTC The Elm's Jigs Maggie's Mate
IFC Maravic's Blue Ninja
IFC BFC Haunted Hill Shaker
FC Short's Pro
FC Nomad's Buckshot Mr. Bill
IFC Round Pond Mr. T

As far as dam's go:

FTC Branko's Flying Spark
IFC Squirrell Creek Angie
Stone Hedge Nifty Girl
FC Short's Kate II
Milt's Bea Good Bonnie
FC Woodstock Penny

On the sire side, Jack and Jigs have really revolutionized Large Pack. Being half brothers out of the same mother a lot of success has happened when beaglers have crossed Jigs on Jack bitches or Jack on Jigs bitches. Beaglers will continue to have success line breeding their mother FTC Branko's Close Call Girl. Both were excellent producers as well producing FTC's, FC's, and IFC's from Newfoundland to Louisana. Ninja and Shaker both come from FTC Branko's Close Call Girl, Ninja being out of Jack and Shaker being out of a Big Sam bitch and Big Sam was out of Jack's sister.

Angie gave Shaker more then a half dozen champions, nuff said.

Mr. Bill and Mr. T were big hounds up here and both were excellent producers. Both ran against each other in championship trials and traded spots here and there. I just gave a win to a quadruple cross Bill bitch on snow at Adirondack...outstanding.

Pro's numbers are amazing in the midwest as far as GDB and UBGF SPO goes.

On the dam side:
I'm not sure if Flying Spark produced litters in the 90's but her pups certainly did well during them. Armando's Northern Tracker, Tasha, Hawkeye, and Zachary that I can think of off the top of my head.

Nifty Girl's numbers as a producer are hard to match, as well as Penny's and Kate II. These three bitches will be in pedigrees for a long time. Kate II has produced something like 14 FC's.

And if you haven't been around the past year and haven't heard the name Milt's Bea Good Bonnie...you're just looking at sires, this bitch has produced 4 FC's in one litter and had two grand pups take 1st and 2nd at the nationals as well as a daughter win and another take 4th.

It depends on what style of hound you like. For me its been Kingwoods T-rex and Kingwoods Shorty,also Branko's Ali Baba,the Dame would have to be Annas Ann,for me. I think in the UKC its been Fire River Michel and Whiteriver Lulu.