IFC Greenwell's Reggie

[bunnytracks]

Bill, just asking a question, who campaigned Reggie? Where was he born? And who owned him when he became the WORLD Champion? And for myself I want a hound that has extreme search abilities, line control, and can bring the rabbit back to the gun, each to his own! And also, some of those turbo hounds like Jasper, and Code Blue, should be fast enough for any hunter, the blur snydrome, if you know what I mean.

[Chimney Rock Kennel]

So Bill what if you take a fog from Reggie's 5 th generation and look at its 5 generation and then take a dog from that ones 5th generation and etc. your telling me that they all are Northern bred hounds. Bill if you want I can post you a picture of a beagle just so you know what one is.

[bunnytracks]

[bill (flint river )]

.... I am just having alittle fun with ya girls and I am just getting started.

[Rowco Beagle Kennels]

L&L Blue Ice Girl is an ARHA LP Bench and field champion, she would have granded out but Dad and I go to a very limited number of trials. She also won the Kentucky State Big Pack hunt, and has a fourth at the big pack grand nationals and was the combination winner as well. Never have gotten to run her at the LP world because she is always in heat at that time, but She can compete at that level. I love my Reggie gyp, have some awesome pups off her, and she has a home. I have also been beat by switch and Irene, awesome dogs. My two cents added. Johnny

[bill (flint river )]

So Bill what if you take a fog from Reggie's 5 th generation and look at its 5 generation and then take a dog from that ones 5th generation and etc. your telling me that they all are Northern bred hounds. Bill if you want I can post you a picture of a beagle just so you know what one is.

.............................Brankos Jack Of All Trades
....................FC Brankos Heliprop
.............................Brankos Speedy Devil
...........FC Turbo Powered By Prop
.............................FC Armandos Little Conman
....................FC Elk Creek Blue Babe
............................Camp Creek Gertrude
REGGIE
.............................FC Maravics Blue Ninja
..................FC Greenbriers Maravics Simba
............................Greenbriers Old Black Magic
..........Maravics Blue Girl
.............................FC Maravics Blue Ninja
..................FC Maravics Blue Moon
............................Greenbriers Charity


maybe this will be clear enough for u...........do u see all the northern bread hounds or do I need to get a crayon and color them in for u.

[bill (flint river )]

sorry to have to bring facts into this.... just say uncle and I will leave u alone...

[Chimney Rock Kennel]

Bill your definitely a mentally handi-capped individual. I hope your parents drew a check on you cause if they didn't they missed a fine opportunity.

Why only look at a 5 generation ped, why not look at a 10 generation or a 20 generation or even a 30 generation ped, hell lets go back a 100 generations and just see if IFC Greenwell's Reggie is indeed a "northern bred hound as you call it". You know why you don't want to look back that far Bill, well ill tell you why cause your gonna find out that he is a Great Britan bred hound just the same as all the other beagles in the United States and Canada.

All I can say for you Bill is bring your best bred northern bred bitch down here and well let Reggie have his way with her for about 30 min and you'll go back with a litter of good ol nothern bred rabbit dogs that got bred in the south southern style. Oh and don't forget to bring $300 with you to pay the stud fee .

[bill (flint river )]

Bill your definitely a mentally handi-capped individual. I hope your parents drew a check on you cause if they didn't they missed a fine opportunity.

Why only look at a 5 generation ped, why not look at a 10 generation or a 20 generation or even a 30 generation ped, hell lets go back a 100 generations and just see if IFC Greenwell's Reggie is indeed a "northern bred hound as you call it". You know why you don't want to look back that far Bill, well ill tell you why cause your gonna find out that he is a Great Britan bred hound just the same as all the other beagles in the United States and Canada.

All I can say for you Bill is bring your best bred northern bred bitch down here and well let Reggie have his way with her for about 30 min and you'll go back with a litter of good ol nothern bred rabbit dogs that got bred in the south southern style. Oh and don't forget to bring $300 with you to pay the stud fee .

lol, you make no sence, but will run your trap till the end, I have proven u wrong, and why would I breed to a male that had a mental break down on hare?? my kennel power is all good. and there is a lot of hounds out there I would breed to first over reggie. I am not a sheep, I think for my self when it comes to my hounds.....

[Chimney Rock Kennel]

Let me see if I can clear this up a little for you bill, nobody cares where the dogs in Reggie's pedigree lived at, nobody cares where Reggie lives (unless there figuring how long it's gonna take them to there to breed to him) the fact is Reggie is a IFC, a lp World Champion that has produced 2 World champions, numerous rabbit champions, grand champions, AKC Field Champions, PKC Champions, UKC Champions and more good ol rabbit dogs than you will ever be able to count. Please name 1 other dog that has accomplished what he did as a trial dog and produced what he has. Just 1 Bill surely you can name 1.

[KanesIrish]

One thing can be said, no dog has ever changed the face of an association like Reggie has with the Mid West. Some say for the good some say for the bad.

I've only seen Reggie once, it was in a class of 42 at Palmer. This class was judged by Jack Silvernale and Sean Bickford, it was one of, if not the best the pack that I have had the chance to see. Every time the pack came by the gallery and I saw a dog that I would get it came out on leash in minutes. This class was dominated by a dog by the name of Too Much Trouble Bull Dozer, from start to finish, he made his living by running through the dogs in the front and keeping the pack on the hare over and over again. It was a sight to see, however nobody ever brings up that dog, he was never bred to a dog out side of the owners kennel, but every Tom, Dick , and Harry knows Reggie took second there.

Bill says look at his 5th generation, all the dogs are Northern bred...look at his third generation, ALL THE DOGS are northern bred. The only dogs that were campaigned on cottontail in his pedigree were Turbo and Elks Creek Blue Babe.

Bill also says that Branko's start came from Dingus Macrae, I think Branko would probably argue that. While they did have some nice dogs that came out of Dingus that kept their line going and we're excellent producers in their own right, Anna's Ann produced on FTCH WInterborne Boomerang and Muskie Lake Levi as well. Also you can trace back in older Branko crosses when Ann was bred to FTCH Moneysunk Trigger.

Eddie you say that nobody has matched what Reggie does as a trial dog, sure. This is not meant to cause an argument or a debate, but MANY northern beaglers couldn't tell you what the NKC or the ARHA is, let alone could compare to compete in the LP World...I don't want to go there, and I'm not going to, but I'm using it to clear a case for this dog: NLPC IFC Melanson Ranger Dan. Hate him or love him: 30 wins, enough to finish for the requirements for IFC 3 times over, finished the requirements for SPO FC, two time Better Beagling Award winner, National Large Pack Championship winner, I believe he won the trial of champions (but don't quote me on that). Not to mention he produced producers.

BFT has Ranger Dan producing 22 FC's in 42 litters compared to 6 FC's out of 50 litters out of Reggie. While I know BFT says there are some inaccuracy's with their records as far as amount of breedings and dogs lacking titles...Ranger Dan passed at the age of 9. They are both members of Better Beagling's "Hall of Fame"

[bill (flint river )]

One thing can be said, no dog has ever changed the face of an association like Reggie has with the Mid West. Some say for the good some say for the bad.

I've only seen Reggie once, it was in a class of 42 at Palmer. This class was judged by Jack Silvernale and Sean Bickford, it was one of, if not the best the pack that I have had the chance to see. Every time the pack came by the gallery and I saw a dog that I would get it came out on leash in minutes. This class was dominated by a dog by the name of Too Much Trouble Bull Dozer, from start to finish, he made his living by running through the dogs in the front and keeping the pack on the hare over and over again. It was a sight to see, however nobody ever brings up that dog, he was never bred to a dog out side of the owners kennel, but every Tom, Dick , and Harry knows Reggie took second there.

Bill says look at his 5th generation, all the dogs are Northern bred...look at his third generation, ALL THE DOGS are northern bred. The only dogs that were campaigned on cottontail in his pedigree were Turbo and Elks Creek Blue Babe.

Bill also says that Branko's start came from Dingus Macrae, I think Branko would probably argue that. While they did have some nice dogs that came out of Dingus that kept their line going and we're excellent producers in their own right, Anna's Ann produced on FTCH WInterborne Boomerang and Muskie Lake Levi as well. Also you can trace back in older Branko crosses when Ann was bred to FTCH Moneysunk Trigger.

Eddie you say that nobody has matched what Reggie does as a trial dog, sure. This is not meant to cause an argument or a debate, but MANY northern beaglers couldn't tell you what the NKC or the ARHA is, let alone could compare to compete in the LP World...I don't want to go there, and I'm not going to, but I'm using it to clear a case for this dog: NLPC IFC Melanson Ranger Dan. Hate him or love him: 30 wins, enough to finish for the requirements for IFC 3 times over, finished the requirements for SPO FC, two time Better Beagling Award winner, National Large Pack Championship winner, I believe he won the trial of champions (but don't quote me on that). Not to mention he produced producers.

BFT has Ranger Dan producing 22 FC's in 42 litters compared to 6 FC's out of 50 litters out of Reggie. While I know BFT says there are some inaccuracy's with their records as far as amount of breedings and dogs lacking titles...Ranger Dan passed at the age of 9. They are both members of Better Beagling's "Hall of Fame"

I am going to end with this, btw I liked reading your post, no other hound in history won more in the akc then abels east cost trimmer. I think ranger dan is second.

but thanks for the read, I am just going to let the sheep head out to pastor, o btw if the owner of bull dozer wants to send him to MI, I am sure we can get the ole boy laid a few times...

[KanesIrish]

Ranger Dan had 30 wins in the states and Canada...Trimmer had 18. FC Briarpatch Black Willow won 15 trials in either 2002 or 2003.

[Pine Lakes]

Sorry to bust your bubble again Bill, but if Reggie is not a KY dog because "all of his blood came from up north" how can you say the dogs from "up north" are from "up north" when the beagle originated in Great Britan. Looks like to me all the blood "in this dog we love so well" came from Great Britan.

I thought Kevin Monroe owned Reggie and campaigned him to his titles. Am I mistaken?

The current style of dog we most generally run in the Mid-West is certainly the result of the hare hound breeders. I'm sure we could trace these dogs back to Great Britain, but I'm not sure what the point in that would be. Someone made the claim that Reggie is a Ky dog and I guess if that means he was purchased by someone in Ky after he finished, then I guess he is.

As far as Reggie's reproducing abilities, I don't think that it can be questioned. What is uncertain is the number of times he has been bred in relativity to the number of FC's produced. Also, unless I am severely mistaken, there was a period of time that Reggie was at stud for little or no fee. Can someone help me recall that please?

There is no question in my mind that Reggie has produced some very fine hounds. Ky Lucky, Chester, Ohio Reggie, Cosmo, and a few others have all finished here in the Mid-West and some in impressive fashion. The argument of how good of a reproducer he is compared to other studs is very difficult(if not impossible) to statistically support from either perspective. You would have to know the number of litters produced, how many pups in each litter, how many were campaigned, how they were trained, and a host of other stats. One could argue that Turbo, Geneo, Primetime, Mountain Man, Casey or a host of other dogs produced better, but didn't have as many breedings, and it would be a legitimate argument. Hasn't Pinnacle Hill Sport won the derby sire of the year recently and I guarantee you that he hasn't been bred half as many times as Reggie. I think Reggie doesn't get the respect he deserves at times due to the lack of humility from some who have reaped the benefits of his reproducing ability. That's as nice as I can put it.

[Chimney Rock Kennel]

I may be wrong but to me if a dog that is born,raised, and trained in KY i would say the dog came from KY, others may say its from OH because that's where he lived when he finished, and others like bill may say he's from up north because the dogs in his 5th generation pedigree are from up north. I always considered myself from being from KY just because i was born and raised here, but after talking to bill I'm not sure because my mother was born in OH, so maybe that makes me a buckeye I'm not sure. If anyone knows the requirements to be called a Kentucian please let me know so I can see if I qualify.