Krpan's statement re: AKC - DNA Mixup

[greenbay]

[quote="chapkosbeagles"]mr riddlerun i dont think branko is in it to spread and share his line when he is selling pups for 500 if he were selling them 150 to 250 than i might think it wasent for the money]


Chapko,

Excellent, Excellent point! There is no one that can debate your statement.


Bev, Yes, FC Green Bay Lambeau (out of IFC Speedy Sport) was sold to a gentleman in WV. Thank you very much for the use of
this board concerning the sale of Lambeau.

Still waiting for you to send me your address. (I am not joking)

[Bev]

Please don't send me a live skunk, or a box full of spiders, or anything like that, okay? (I am not joking, either...especially about the spiders.)

Bev Cross
3917 English Ave
Indianapolis, IN 46201

[BriarCreekBeagles]

Why don't everybody just let the breeders be and get there problems worked out and go back to producing some good hounds. I ain't been beaglin for long but from about everything I've seen theres alot of good hounds out there that go back to Branko dogs somewhere and theres alot of good hounds that go back to other stuff (northway, patchhounds and whatever else is out there) those are just the main ones I know of which ain't saying much cause I don't know a whole hoopin lot of anything.
One thing I do know is all of my hounds got Branko in them somewhere and some northway and so on and so on and the last time I ran my hounds I don't recall them hagglin over who burned or didn't burn or who switched papers on what or who didn't, as far as I know all my hounds could go back to some potlicker's named Harry and Sally or Willie and Mo. Who knows and who cares! What I do know is most days they'll flat burn the hair off of a bunnie and somedays they can't find there arse if a rabbit handed it to them, There dogs I mean they lick there own nuts and eat crap for cryin' out loud. But anyway no matter what they lick or eat like I said most days they'll flat smoke a bunnie and I love my hounds anyway.
One things for sure when I dump my hounds out or I put'em in the kennel they ain't gripin' and arguin' about who's got this or that on there papers or which one's lickin there butt or eatin crap, as a matter of fact there always happy wether there lickin nuts, eatin crap, lickin each other's butt, runnin bunnies or sittin around on the porch with me watchin the world go by and that's what beaglin is suppose to be I thought, not a bunch of cryin and whining on the board that Bev or whoever is running.
And by the way Bev Thanks for making this resource available to guys like me that don't know a whole hoopin lot about anything, maybe someday this will go back to a board where everybody get's along and gives positive info as well as some good constructive criticism and maybe someday I'll still know a whole hoopin lot of nothin but I'll think I do any way.

P.S. I'm gonna start a kennel and name it Harry Willie Mo, Pot lickers Beagles and I'll throw all the papers in the burn barrel and everybody can just try and figure out where they came from while the hounds are poundin the bunnies and tearin up the brushpile Oh yeah and I won't charge for the Harry Willie Mo bloodline

[Joeyman]

this should be good if ya can get to the bottom of it without being too nasty be good now joey get your pop corn man out

Just for you Upon special request...lol

[Big Rock Hollow ken]

If Know one cares who their dogs ancesters are why do we pay more for AKC registered dogs?

[m_blankenship]

mine is bred to branko vidercator a double bred heli prop male

[BriarCreekBeagles]

well I guess I should have worded that part a little different, My only point is that when it comes right down to it the papers don't run the bunnie. I mean don't get me wrong all my hounds are AKC registered and if I was to get into trialing big time (which I don't) then it would be good to have the papers for that purpose and I like knowing that I have registered hounds but like I said the papers don't run the bunnie and unless I wanted to shell out the money for DNA do I really know what I got I mean I can see the point of DNA and papers but my point on my first reply is simply this when it come right down to wether or not we as baeglers trial or run gun dogs aren't we all doing this because we love to hear and see a good rabbit race with a pack of hounds poundin it. I mean people like the Brankos and Greenbay have apparently contributed alot to beagling and like every other human I'm sure they make mistakes, Heck some of us even make out right bad choices, I have and still do from time to time. but We as beaglers need to just get along. I know when there is money or reputation at stake it's hard to do so if you get involved in a bad deal do what you can to get it right. If you get out right screwed over by a crook then by all means let us know so we don't get bit too but as far as all this other crap goes it needs to be left alone. I mean there are defintley some apologies owed and if I said anything to offend any one I apologize, that is not what i intended just puttin in my two cents. Heck as far as bad choices go maybe I should of just kept my two cents and went and ran my hounds.

[jt&z's dad]

Ahh the off season. Can't wait til its rabbit season again, huh Bev. Hang in there everyone its right around the corner. Don't know either party involved or ever even seen them, have read statements, rumors and hear says on this and other boards. I have seen a couple Shooter dogs run and more than a couple of Branko hounds run, heck I even own one but not right from Branko's kennel. I'm not kennel partial or kennel blind, a good dog is a good dog and a pot licker is a pot licker. But it just amazes me that as soon as there is money, braggin rights, trophies or ribbons on the line how many of us can show different sides. I have only met a few people from this site mostly Michiganders but visit every day, there are many here I would like to meet and others I enjoy reading there posts and learning through there wisdom and experience. I have to agree with the earlier poster who said let us know what happens after the DNA test is complete. Anything else that is happening here is just finger pointing, kennel bashing and and causing hate and discontent. Do onto others as ..... just my two cents worth.

[bluetickbeagle]

well i dont think there will be any DNA test cause they burnt there kennel. So we let you know the out come really quick...lol.

[Bev]

Ummm, I believe he's talking about this particular situation. It might help if you go back and read the very first post. The kennel fire was circa 1999.

[bluetickbeagle]

And they are still hveing problems getting the pups right??? WHATS WRONG WITH THAT PICTURE?

[Duke]

Bev, from the American Beagler Magazine to this site you have been a service and credit to all beaglers, I am totally disappointed in those who are attacking you. I want to say thanks for all you do.

Ok on to the topic at hand, Bev let the Brankos have their say and Greenbay have his say, there is nothing more fair than that.

I want to ask all of you a question; I have a DNA'd male stud, A man gets a female pup out of him, it dies, he keeps the papers so he can breed his grade female as an AKC registered hound, do you think this ever happens???? Then a guy has the grandpups checked and the DNA doesnt match, whos fault is that???? Who gets the scrutiny?? I just want everyone to realize that there are a whole lot of things that can happen, not only to the Brankos or Greenbay, but to any one of us who have DNA registered studs. I am willing to give EVERYONE the benefit of the doubt, until proven wrong. DNA is a tool only, probably the best one we have, but it can be tinkered with at both ends.

Just watching the accusations fly on this board should give everyone with half a brain enough reason to not believe the rumour mill. Lets start believing the best in our fellow man, rather than delighting in another persons trials and tragedies. Its like watching a car race hoping for wrecks. Hey Greenbay and Branko had their say, if you have facts about the issue and you feel the need to share them, thats your right. If you want to spread hate and discontent, well its your right until you go to far and Bev has to stop it. I think she is pretty darn liberal in letting everyone say what they want. I am really dissapointed she is being attacked. I am asking for civility, please.

Guys once you let words fly, they cant be taken back. If we all stop for a minute to think, maybe we should all ask ourselves, are my words going to benefit the goals of this board to promote beagles and hunting, or are they gonna feed my ego????

[BlackRiverBeagler]

I love Branko hounds!!!! If you don't like them so what. It's no different than somebody not liking black and tans, or white and lemon patch hounds, or blueticks. This has turned into a high school cry-baby b@#ch fest. It sucks that everytime somebody on here shares an opinion, they get bashed for it, and this goes both ways. You guys have too much time on your hands, go run your darn hounds!

[chapkosbeagles]

that is very well said duke. i was banned off the ukc board just for telling a story about what happen in a hunt. it wasent that bad, but tod morgan dont like me so he banned me. bev sure could banned thows who have attacked her, or said accustions with out facts on here . i am trying to look at both sides equal but i dont know the facts from the fiction. i never even saw the first post that was on here. i think bev is really fair in the way she let freedom of speach fly on the board even when being attacked. she is a honable sport about this cause if she wernt she would just kick ya off. she lets every one voice there opeion.

[bluetickbeagle]

Yes all appreciate what she has done, but She is not being far. She lets Branko and Freda speak what they fill, but no one else is allowed. Just because someone is well know dont mean crap. Its like saying only one dog can eat even though the rest are just as good. Everyone is equil. So Let everyones voice be heard. And fill that i have that right. So i ask those who are trying to get me banned, SHUT UP! Bev has been great to us all, but now that its time for equal rights she isnt giving them to us. So I will voice my opion if i fill like it, and i will take greenbays siad now that i do know the WHOLE STORY.