Brankos Pup Price

[jonnyringo]

From what I've seen, there is a reason you don't see many down here. Must be a location and condition thing. I don't know. Don't really care to be honest with you.

Most likely due to demographics and economy.

[Greensprings Kennel]

If you read through the posts, JR, and I will do the math for you.....$400.00 plus shipping and crating= $700.00..++.
An unproven cross...a male and female that have never been bred together, they do it all the time. To ASSert that I pulled my opinion out of thin air is ASSinine......some people ......

[jonnyringo]

If you read through the posts, JR, and I will do the math for you.....$400.00 plus shipping and crating= $700.00..++.
An unproven cross...a male and female that have never been bred together, they do it all the time. To ASSert that I pulled my opinion out of thin air is ASSinine......some people ......

So you'r saying that Branko should pay for the crate and pay for the shipping?
If they do the unprven crosses all the time and sell the pups I'd like to see proof of that.

[eddywilliams]

I HAVE TO AGREE WITH JONNY RINGO ,IT IS A STEEP PRICE TOPAY FOR A PUP THAT YOU DONT KNOW HOW IT WILL TURN OUT .BUT YOU KNOW THIS WITH ANY PUP PURCHASE REGARDLES OF WHAT THEY ARE OUT OF ,ED IS BATTING A THOUSAND ON HIS 2 PUPS HE PURCHASED AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE MORE OFTEN OR NOT THIS IS THE CASE .I AM ABLE TO SEE ALOT OF THE DOGS BRANKO HAS BRED A BUDDY OF MINE HAS QUITE AFEW FROM HIM .I HAVE SEEN SUGAR RAY ,ALI-BABA, HOMBRE ,FLASHBACK , TIM BIT ,MYSTERY MAN , BABA CLYDE ,DIANE ,TURBO , MANITOBA LUCY ..... OVER THE YEARS THESE HOUNDS HAVE MADE ME WANTING TO SEE MORE OF THEM AND WHAT THEY COULD PRODUCE [THE NEXT GREAT ONE HOPEFULLY] AS FAR AS PURCHASING A 1500 DOLLAR DOG I THINK IF I BOUGHT ONE [SIGHT UNSEEN ]ID HAVE TO GET A GUARANTEE THAT IT WILL DO AS ADVERTISED WITHIN A WEEK OR SO OR THE DEAL IS OFF ,THATS ME THOUGH.THEY CALLMEFAST EDDY

[bill (flint river )]

I wish I had the historical resources to prove my point. I bet that the dog Rufus refered to (FC Northway Spur) produced more field champions per litter or bitch bred than any Branko dog ever. Why didn't the Northway kennels take off like Branko's? I am not knocking Branko's dogs, I have one and I am very pleased, it is just ironic how things turn out sometimes. Frieda has responded to my emails promptly and seemingly genuine and I am not beyond purchasing a dog from them in the future. You have to respect and envy what they have accomplished, but I am sure they would be the first to tell you they couldn't have done it without help and support. Good luck to all!

how much are u willing to bet about that statement???? u guys dont have a clue what branko but backs into his beagle, there is not one other person ever to put back so much. 2 600 acre running pens, 2 50 + acrea puppy pens. he pays over 60 dollar a bag for dog food.

[mud]

This is a ggod topic.Everyone has to do whats best for them.No way I would even consider paying the asking price that I see mentioned on this thread.I am just a gun hunter and pack run with friends.I can and do buy broke proven dogs for the price we are discussing.Would what I buy suit another person on this site maybe not.My experience with having dogs for over 35 years is that all pups don't turn out.If it was that easy everyone would have great dogs.Again not saying anything wrong if a man wants to give $700 a pup thats his business.My hunting buddy says that it does not matter the price as long as you felt like you got a good deal.That works for him.For me the more I pay for pup or broke dog the more I expect out of them.Most of the best deals I have made in my years of beagling are the ones I didn't make .LOL.

[kybriarbuster]

at what age of the offspring is a cross considered proven? how many litters must be raised from the same pair to be considered proven? not trying to be rude but im curios what people think. also remember all pups dont have the same trainers and this adds to the question. breeding a family of dogs and being able to tell me what traits this pup will have is why i pay them the big $$$$$. ive bought 4 dogs from them and have 3 they bred. THEY BRED not the second and third generation outcrosses many are fond of calling branko dogs.for so many people to not like them or their dogs there sure is a lot of them out there. anybody wants to see some go come on down. ive been laid up all summer with a bum leg. they have been out about 4 times in 8 weeks. they ran from 1230 yesterday afternoon till 1000 last night and was running again from 330 this morning till about 930. they definately have heart. i dont trial much but my old dog has been in 6 midwest trials. 2 firsts and 2 seconds. one second place he was raped and the whole gallery thought so also. ive got another one i might trial this year if i have time thats just as good as the old dog. once again i bought this pup at 6 weeks old and he is EXACTLY AS DESCRIBED. not the quote ( these should be good dogs if they turn out like i hope ) that i read on most puppy ads.THIS IS WHY I PAY THE BIG BUCKS!!! NO IM NOT RICH OR AN IDIOT BUT IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY TO RAISE AND TRAIN A DOG AND I DONT WANT TO WASTE EITHER. sam lebeau

[kybriarbuster]

at what age of the offspring is a cross considered proven? how many litters must be raised from the same pair to be considered proven? not trying to be rude but im curios what people think. also remember all pups dont have the same trainers and this adds to the question. breeding a family of dogs and being able to tell me what traits this pup will have is why i pay them the big $$$$$. ive bought 4 dogs from them and have 3 they bred. THEY BRED not the second and third generation outcrosses many are fond of calling branko dogs.for so many people to not like them or their dogs there sure is a lot of them out there. anybody wants to see some go come on down. ive been laid up all summer with a bum leg. they have been out about 4 times in 8 weeks. they ran from 1230 yesterday afternoon till 1000 last night and was running again from 330 this morning till about 930. they definately have heart. i dont trial much but my old dog has been in 6 midwest trials. 2 firsts and 2 seconds. one second place he was raped and the whole gallery thought so also. ive got another one i might trial this year if i have time thats just as good as the old dog. once again i bought this pup at 6 weeks old and he is EXACTLY AS DESCRIBED. not the quote ( these should be good dogs if they turn out like i hope ) that i read on most puppy ads.THIS IS WHY I PAY THE BIG BUCKS!!! NO IM NOT RICH OR AN IDIOT BUT IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY TO RAISE AND TRAIN A DOG AND I DONT WANT TO WASTE EITHER. sam lebeau

[jonnyringo]

IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY TO RAISE AND TRAIN A DOG AND I DONT WANT TO WASTE EITHER. sam lebeau

Amen brother - my thoughts exactly. I don't like wasting my time on unproven backyard breedings. I believe one gets what they pay for and I always am willing to pay a little more with the chance of the pup being a good one or maybe even a great one. Money couldn't buy my Belle dog. She has it all in my opinion and really turned the corner this summer. She runs glued to the line and has gears, brains and heart. She will jump a rabbit in a New York minute and is always the last to leave the field. During gun season, I have hunted her hard all day and she has no quit in her. I could not be more pleased. I'd love to have a kennel full of these "overpriced" $400.00 hounds.

[Boomerx]

Just to reply to posts about "overpriced pups". I bred two Field Trial Ch. bitches to an Int. Fd. Ch. male. They both had pups this week. One had only three pups and the second had 7, and 3 more (huge ones) were dead inside her. After vet bills of over $800. I now have a champion bitch that had to be spayed (no more pups), and for those who realize the cost of campaigning a hound to it's championship, you know it's considerable. A couple of her pups are now dead (the vet told me to leave them on the mother). I've now put the remaining pups on the first bitch, but I don't believe many will make it, as they are small and weak. I've got more vet bills to look forward to, and any pups that survive, I'll keep myself. They're too expensive to sell. The puppy business isn't all sunshine and roses. Terry McBride

[MasonsBeagles]

Just to reply to posts about "overpriced pups". I bred two Field Trial Ch. bitches to an Int. Fd. Ch. male. They both had pups this week. One had only three pups and the second had 7, and 3 more (huge ones) were dead inside her. After vet bills of over $800. I now have a champion bitch that had to be spayed (no more pups), and for those who realize the cost of campaigning a hound to it's championship, you know it's considerable. A couple of her pups are now dead (the vet told me to leave them on the mother). I've now put the remaining pups on the first bitch, but I don't believe many will make it, as they are small and weak. I've got more vet bills to look forward to, and any pups that survive, I'll keep myself. They're too expensive to sell. The puppy business isn't all sunshine and roses. Terry McBride

AMEN to that. Me and some friends always say if we ever hit the lottery we will breed beagles til we run out of money...lol

[Beagled1]

If you read through the posts, JR, and I will do the math for you.....$400.00 plus shipping and crating= $700.00..++.
An unproven cross...a male and female that have never been bred together, they do it all the time. To ASSert that I pulled my opinion out of thin air is ASSinine......some people ......

If we go by that logic, then EVERY pairing we make (save for a repeat breeding) is an unproven cross. And of course, you're right. The success of the breeding cannot be proven until the pups are old enough to be run, trialed, etc. This has nothing to do with Branko's hounds - it can be said of every breeding. We're paying for POTENTIAL when we buy a pup. You say it about Branko as though its some terrible thing, that he is making "unproven" crosses

What he or any one of us is doing is assessing the compatability of the indivigual hounds before pairing them, which is all anyone can do. I bought directly from him becuase I prefer that bloodline, and not just for their running style, either. Hell of a lot of great hounds coming from Branko's unproven crosses

Altho, I do agree, the barn fire hit them hard I like the old school blood myself, especially where Ali-Baba is crossed with Heli Prop, or a few crosses of Prop in 3 generations. I had the opportunity to see Branko dogs bred by the Krpans run when I was looking for my first brood bitch back 5 years ago. I didn't like what I saw, in all honesty. Ok hunt but overran the line and were like watching a ping pong ball, lol. Bad conformation, as well. What they are breeding today is 1000x better than what I saw 5 yrs ago, old school or not. So I do think that says something of them as BREEDERS. They picked themselves up by the bootstraps and are salvaging their program quite well. See, its not just the dogs you have, but the choices that you make that sets your kennel apart from others ... In a nutshell, thats what I paid for when I bought a pup from them - their bloodline, yes, but their savvy as breeders with an exceptional eye for quality matings ...

[danny vansickle]

So you'r saying that Branko should pay for the crate and pay for the shipping?
If they do the unprven crosses all the time and sell the pups I'd like to see proof of that.[/quote]

if they would lower the price to 200,as most pups here sell for,then ya still have 500 in one,but it is a lil easier to swallow.

as for proof of unproven crasses,go to brankos puppy page on their sight,there is your proof,they are selling pups out of first time crosses 24-7 ,7 days a week,with all the pups branko has kicked out in the last few years,have any of them accomplished anything?won any big hunts?no,that is unproven crosses,400 plus shipping is rediculous.

jmho

[jonnyringo]

if they would lower the price to 200,as most pups here sell for,then ya still have 500 in one,but it is a lil easier to swallow.

as for proof of unproven crasses,go to brankos puppy page on their sight,there is your proof,they are selling pups out of first time crosses 24-7 ,7 days a week,with all the pups branko has kicked out in the last few years,have any of them accomplished anything?won any big hunts?no,that is unproven crosses,400 plus shipping is rediculous.

jmho

Do some of you people just dream this crap up?

Pups for sale: http://www.brankosbeagles.com/forsale.html

Branko brood bitches: http://www.brankosbeagles.com/broodbitches.html

At stud: http://www.brankosbeagles.com/atstud.html

[Greensprings Kennel]

I don't care who pays for what.......shipping, handling, crating, processing, whatever...........it still equals over $700.00 to get one. You must have flunked math........
I could go on and talk my $200.00 hound up...but there's already enough hot-air being contributed to this thread..!!