Fastest dog from open to grand champion

[diamondp]

And yes i like to brag a little.We all do. Right jimmy!!

[MasonsBeagles]

Earl Bruners "Lucky" dog went from open to grand to hall of fame in a fairly quick amount of time.

Heard about that Sally bitch of Waynes too. Before my time..lol Youll have to catch Wayne at the hunts cause I dont think he visits these boards.

[danny vansickle]

boys,don't quote me on this but i believe the fastest was kevin monroes dog,ma prime time stretch,he was a grand by the time he was 18 mos. old.and he did it in very few hunts,like i said don't quote me i would have to ask kevin,but i believe my memory serves me right.

[L.J. McKenzie]

with all the home cooking and buddy judging that goes on in nkc and there being 40 hunts a year with in a 2 1/2 hour drive its possible to grand out quick. i run arha lp but to me a real champion dog should have the title of akc field champion. anyone know the fastest dog to recieve the honor of akc fc?

[diamondp]

Akc is a joke .I love the format ,but you wanna talk about crooked. Hand picked judges and trialers that follow them.Just my 2 cents.

[danny vansickle]

you can quote me on this,kevins dog,greenwells reggie,he did it in 7 weeks in akc,and he needs 1 win for ifc in canada.and i do agree with you on the home cookin not everyone does it but quite a few do,and it sucks to work with a dog and spend who knows how much money just to go to a hunt and hit the stakes and see the judge and his best buddy that you have to run against already celebrating before you leave the club house.it happened to me.

[Jamie Rice]

Crookedness happens in all formats. No more blame can be placed on AKC than that could be placed on ARHA, UKC, or any other format.

All of it may be a joke, but the funniest thing I ever saw happen... was some wannabe from ARKANSAS paying $3000 or more for a 13" male... Bringing it to an AKC trial and it get picked up within 10 minutes for NOT HUNTING!

Wonder who the IDIOT that bought that dog was? Anyone know?

[JIMMIE ABSHIRE]

Fuzz the supense is more than i can stand !

[Buckeye Bob]

[danny vansickle]

well i know it is not me cause i wouldn't buy a 13 inch dog nothing against them cause i have seen good ones and nor been to an akc trial.so tell us who is it initials and state will work,tell us man please

[diamondp]

I believe he is talking about me,Chris bryant. I don't know where you get your information but you are dumb as sht.First of all we didn't pay 3000 for that hound,he wasn't the hardest hunter,but if i recall right he happened to be 2 ft from the rabbit ,looking at it when he jumped up,then after half the pack left on a deer race the remaining dogs caught the rabbit.Ace included.Suddenly he was picked up for not hunting.That whole situation was a joke.I will admit that he was not the greatest hound we ever ran but he still was a nice hound.And if akc is so great why did said hound already have 2 wins in akc. This is my question,if in your opinion he was such a peice of junk how did he win under the fine judging akc offers. Akc rules in home cooking!!!

Ps .I have run and placed in several AKC trials. 1st place is reserved.Outsiders don't win no matter what hound you run.

[jonnyringo]

This is great - fellow beaglers slamming one another. We will be able to keep this great sport alive if we just keep slamming each other and each others dogs. Nice

[kjohn2hunt]

I carry a jar of vasiline with me to each hunt. I measure my dogs by how many rabbits I kill not by how many trophy's I have collecting dust.What does a champion certificate do, it doesn't make the dog run any better only the owners mouth bragging about what he has, when in reality he only has a piece of paper and a piece of paper doesn't put fur in the game bag.

[jonnyringo]

I plan to trial my Pike Ridge Max Tuffy male next year but I plan to do it just to meet other beaglers and to network and exchange ideas and info. For the most part, I find beaglers very passionate about their dogs and beagles in general. I agree that ribbons and trophies mean very little and some of the best dogs are never trialed. Buddy judging and all the dishonesty isn't fooling anyone who has been around the sport long. At the end of the day the most important thing is that you are happy with what is in your kennel and you are trying to better the breed.
I have got to know several outstanding individuals right here on this board - Duke, Steve Sanford, Rneil, Xdawg and a few others. In fact, I am very anxious to meet them face to face and run with them. That's what this board and beagling should be all about.

[Jamie Rice]

Chris... You're confused. Your dog didn't jump the rabbit nor was he two feet from the rabbit looking at it. Furthermore there wasn't any pack that left on any deer race. There was one dog that was eliminated for cold trailing deer tracks. I know this because I was the judge that day. Perhaps you're thinking of a different trial than I.

I wanted to pick your dog up within 5 to 10 minutes. However my fellow judge wouldn't let me... his words was "That dog has three wins(maybe it was two, but he said three), lets wait to see what he does after they get a rabbit up." My response was, "It doesn't make a difference what he does after it's up. He's not hunting and wouldn't afterwards." My point was proven after two checks, both of which he stood around with his head up watching the other dogs. At that point I told my fellow judge it was time to get him and that I wasn't running anymore until he was up. He wanted to say the dog got picked up for low score. Which was rather stupid, but that's neither here nor there. In essence he wanted to spare the your feelings. However when you asked why he was picked up, before he could say anything, I spoke up. I stated it was because he wasn't hunting and was playing statue of liberty during both checks. I never said the dog was a piece of junk I said the dog didn't hunt.

I'm man enough to apologize for calling you an idiot. Name calling is childish, guess I should of known better. Maybe you just got taken by his former owners. Who knows? The $3000 was what I was told that was given for the dog. I laughed when I heard such. As for how the dog got his 2 wins, beats me... I wasn't there. But if he ran hunted anything on those days like the day I judge him then it would've been a quick day to the truck. Perhaps other judges look for other things, but first thing I look for is hunt! After they pee and crap out it's time to get to work, not stand around like a foreman and watch every other dog.

The point of my post was not to slander you, if that's what you or anyone else thinks, but instead just to state...
I've seen more than enough guys come in from other formats or be a new trialer in general and always holler buddy judging. These same guys do very well in other formats or beat ole shep on some weekend, but can't seem to place or win in AKC. The first thing they yell is buddy judging, buddy judging, buddy judging. Fact of the matter is that anyone that will pay anything, whether it be a penny or three thousand, for a dog that doesn't hunt hasn't much right to criticize a judge. I'd have to question whether that they knew anything about a dog or not in the first place.

Nevertheless I'm glad that you have placed in several AKC hunts. I would assume it was with other dogs than this one and ones that actually hunted. However your statement that first place in AKC is reserved is ludicris. Best of luck to you where ever you run, but guy you need better excuses than buddy judging.