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Ron Conroe wrote:a poddle can run a rabbit on bare ground like most of your dogs down south, put them on cold snowy ground and lets see how much they bark then.
Would it be safe to assume that most of the dogs that you have seen down south came from a line of northern dogs? I often read the "Hare" board" and it appears the hard core hunters that hunt in all conditions aren't fond of any line. Its just a dog that pups up ocasionally that has the equipment to handle the severe conditions they endure.
I don't believe any area has a monoply on good dogs. Its mostly individual preferance.
nope not saying that at all.im just saying that some of these guys that got these big nose dogs that don't bark until the rabbits up.if they put them on snow when its 5 degrees out they are not gonna bark at all.plus just picking on a few guys down south.
Ron Conroe wrote:a poddle can run a rabbit on bare ground like most of your dogs down south, put them on cold snowy ground and lets see how much they bark then.
buy a poodle and bring it down and bring ur wallet...we'll make a wager. If it's 5 degrees outside in Ohio you're gonna have a hard time finding a cottontail above ground and an even harder time finding one that will stay up long enough to be circled, but none the less i wanna see this poodle. I've got 181,000 miles on a 2005 vehicle and it's a safe bet to say 70% of those miles are from hauling my dogs all over this beautiful country for trials, and running dogs with different people. Lots of clicks on this board and keyboard experts. Don't know you, but I know my dogs. BTW Have killed rabbits in sub zero and single digit weather, been awhile since we've seen weather like that,but I do know my dogs can do it, and not blow there heads off, but I prefer to call that a day of staying warm in the house and putting alil extra straw in the dog boxes when that weather does come in ohio. "jist sayin"
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brains mouth and nose are all different things just like the organs they indicate. they are not connected, but can be mistaken by people who are less observant or just dont know what to look for. not gonna call anyone out and not looking to stir the pot. i agree with lee, a dog that barks more is fine if it produces and most good or great jump dogs do bark more, b/c they are hunting and trailing rabbits while other dogs are standing up looking. i will not and do not tolerate babbling, barking going to other dogs or just running along and me-too-ing all over the woods. nose is a fine thing and never seen a dog with too much of it. they are usully cleaner on the track, quicker on the checks, and at the front of the pack even when they run with faster dogs. brains gets a dog into places where the rabbits are and put themselves into situations where they will jump more rabbits. i have owned two or maybe three pretty good jump dogs in 26 years and all of them had huge nose and brains. they were smart enought to slow it down when scent wasnt good and were clean enough to shut thier mouths when they couldnt figure out which way to go with it.
i would dare say i have put alot more miles on my trucks trialing and running dogs than you ever thought of. im not claiming to be a expert, but i have hunted beagles for 40 years and trialing them for 20 years and im not kennel blind, but i do know how a do is supposed to run in diffrent conditions. it takes a good dog to do it. so bring your hounds up this week ohlinger when its 5 below at night and 15 during the day and we will see how they run. thate if you dare to get out in it.
Ron Conroe wrote:i would dare say i have put alot more miles on my trucks trialing and running dogs than you ever thought of. im not claiming to be a expert, but i have hunted beagles for 40 years and trialing them for 20 years and im not kennel blind, but i do know how a do is supposed to run in diffrent conditions. it takes a good dog to do it. so bring your hounds up this week ohlinger when its 5 below at night and 15 during the day and we will see how they run. thate if you dare to get out in it.
Ron Conroe wrote:i would dare say i have put alot more miles on my trucks trialing and running dogs than you ever thought of. im not claiming to be a expert, but i have hunted beagles for 40 years and trialing them for 20 years and im not kennel blind, but i do know how a do is supposed to run in diffrent conditions. it takes a good dog to do it. so bring your hounds up this week ohlinger when its 5 below at night and 15 during the day and we will see how they run. thate if you dare to get out in it.
I'd dare to say you haven't, could almost promise you you have'nt. Traveled alot in the time I've been doing this. Anyhow is a matter of words there. Trust me these hounds I have for the most part do just fine for what we need here in Ohio. If a rabbit will stay up they'll find and circle it for you, with little to none extra mouth (ideally) for me. granted they don't all pan out, but they don't eat here. Been to Michigan several times now hare is fun to run, but they don't live in ohio besides most of these hounds in my back yard out here all come from up you're way, and they don't have this extra mouth that you are claming is necessary to have such a great nose, but yet they are our of FC's and proven winners up in you're state. When rabbits are in the brush piles and the dogs are'nt tell me what the problem is. Cuz if it's working cold tracks along the edge of the thicket for 10-20 minutes I got a couple dogs that are gonna go jump a rabbit for it, and when they bark you know you can get ur gun ready. a dogs gonna bark if it wants to bark. does'nt mean it can smell something other dogs can't just means it's is'nt smart enough to figure it out if does and does'nt produce.
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18 degrees with 60 mph winds man the rabbits are running and the dogs are locked on I got 3 lines on the rabbit and they are running about 5 feet down wind like there looking at it. Seem to be thet are running the body sent of the rabbit. No extra m outh
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chapkosbeagles wrote:8 degrees with 60 mph winds man the rabbits are running and the dogs are locked on I got 3 lines on the rabbit and they are running about 5 feet down wind like there looking at it. Seem to be thet are running the body sent of the rabbit. No extra m outh
Ron Conroe wrote:a poddle can run a rabbit on bare ground like most of your dogs down south, put them on cold snowy ground and lets see how much they bark then.
ron i dont know where u talikin bout down south....but our rabbits dont 'hide' in bare woods. come on any chance u get and ill show you how open and bare the ground is, then factor in the heat and humididty and your poodle might have trouble running down here after all. snow is not the only obstacle in the world to overcome. tired of hearing folks whine about it. i have ran on snow and had some great running. if ur that unhappy with snow...move.
peace i'm out.
