Cold nose or big nose????

[Chaffin Crank]

Well they usually get a rabbit going but not always, NO dog in this world gets every rabbit to run that it barks on. Now in the warmer dryer months he is a great dog to have around to jump rabbits. I was just wondering what some might consider his nose to be, cold or better than average?

The reason it drives me nuts is he starts barking and the other dogs come to him. Now he is 6 years old and takes his time on the track. The other hounds work the line alot faster without opening. Now the other hounds get further ahead of him and I guess you could say they go into a check so to speak (without barking) and when he barks again they pull back to him. This only happens before the rabbit is jumped, now when the rabbit is jumped they are all working together and the majority of the time he recovers the checks.

I know that people are wondering why I keep him if he drives me nuts? Well the reason I keep him is because he hunts his butt off and stays busy and I haven't seen a brush pile he won't go into. He handles great and has good kennel manners. And when scenting conditions are bad he is really nice to have around in the warmer dryer months to get chases going, but gets mouthy in the colder, frostier months....

I just wanted to see what you guys thought....not turn this into a spelling contest.....C'mon guys it's CHRISTMAS....can't we all get along....

Thanks for replys.

[NorWester]

Sounds like when the going gets tough he is your "go to dog" and it sounds like your other hounds know it too. You probably would be better off without him though, less stressful. You need to send him up to me

[Pike Ridge Beagles]

LOL, never shocked one for running a _rabbit either.

It's hard to shock them off wabbits when you are always shocking them off deer and fox!

Typical line from "no show Sanford" LOL. Didn't you have a thread telling the world about your deer dogs?


Now go run some more pedigrees not your mouth. Surprised you didn't mention that wore out Sport dog and post his pedigree for the 100th time.

[simple pleasure kennels]

barks produces rabbit big nose i have hounds that will cold trial and not bark

barks cold trails no rabbit lack of brain power to control mouth(babbling)

[klrconcrete]

What?

[sanfordssj]

Just for you buddy!

My littel Reggie female is one of those deer runners! She may be broke, but i haven't really gave her the big test latley either (shock, shock).

----------------------- IFC BRANKO’S HELI-PROP
-------------- FC TURBO POWERED BY PROP
----------------------- FC ELK CREEK’S BLUE BABE
-----LP RCH TURBO’S SUPER SPORT
-----------------------IFC MARK V’S ACE IN THE HOLE
-------------- FC TALK ABOUT BLUE BERRY
----------------------- FC ELK CREEK’S BLUE BABE

Now, can i get a pick of your pretty pups in the kennel?

Sent you a PM jack _$$. Its getting close to rabbit season (Jan and Feb for me). We all need to make some plans (You, Eddy, Terry, and Rod)

My worn out Sport male may be able to come out and play

See you soon,
Steve

[gus]

This question gets brought up on here about every six months and it always gets the same tired old responses. I've never been one to go along with what everyone says. I only believe what I see and learn for myself (life would probably be a lot easier for me if I would listen to people that are smarter than me once in a while ). Here's some things about this subject that I have learned on my own. Most of it is different than what 'yall are sayin.

Some dogs with lots of nose don't bark much on track.

Some dogs that bark a lot are just mouthy.

Lots of nose and lots of mouth don't always go together.

When it comes to mouth and cold trailing I pay attention to what a dog's pack mates think of them. If old cold trailer opens and no one pays him any atention, he has too much mouth and not enough nose. If old bawler opens and the rest of the dogs race to get to him, he knows what he is doing. Dogs can judge each other much better than a human with a rule book can.

Most dogs cold trail more as they get older. They also get better at it.

I don't know how a dog knows if a track is worth running, but I do know that SOME dogs just know. Sometimes they are wrong but a good share of the time they are right. They also seem to know which way the wabbit is going on the first track they smell more often than not. I can't explain it.

Dogs that do well in bad conditions do even better in good conditions.

A dog that can't run a cottontail well will never be much good at running a hare when the going gets tough. "Hare dogs" may or may not be any good for hare hunting.

And last but not least, speed is the HARDEST thing there is to breed into a dog. Over running, rough, track switching dogs are not fast. Don't believe me, try waiting for one to bring the same hare back.

Tom your post should be a sticky at the top of the page so when this topic is brought up again the novice can get a clue without the bickering. It says it all.

[Pike Ridge Beagles]

Just for you buddy!

My littel Reggie female is one of those deer runners! She may be broke, but i haven't really gave her the big test latley either (shock, shock).

----------------------- IFC BRANKO’S HELI-PROP
-------------- FC TURBO POWERED BY PROP
----------------------- FC ELK CREEK’S BLUE BABE
-----LP RCH TURBO’S SUPER SPORT
-----------------------IFC MARK V’S ACE IN THE HOLE
-------------- FC TALK ABOUT BLUE BERRY
----------------------- FC ELK CREEK’S BLUE BABE

blah, blah blah......

See you soon,
Steve

*yawns*

[bluemouse]

These type post are great for entertaiment, your dog cant do that and be right, my dog does this and is always right etc. Fact no two dogs are the same might be close but not the same, if only one way with dogs is the right way we would all be doing it the sameway. I find that with the right combination of hounds you can have a pack that gets the job done. I got just three hounds and all three are different, got a jump dog, got a trial dog, and one thats good at the checks, all run about the same speed and pack well. I like them so I feed them, provide them with meds and make sure around the house they are cozy. hunting hounds have a hard job pushing through briars hitting the freezing water just to bring you that rabbit to you. So if yall want to tell your neighbors he's running trash for hounds go ahead and bash him good make him mad. Then think about faults your hound might have and list them next to his faults( go ahead be a real man) he-he

[sav]

Blue are u trying to drum up another he said she said fight?

Get over it man, differing opinions of how a hound does/should work in different environments does not equate to hound bashing

Why do you always think someone is bashing your hound?

Why do you come here then if not to read different opinions?

[Mapel Valley Kennels LLC.]

One of the best dogs to smell in bad conditions is Colby hill, Bogey, Buzz-Saw. I have also noticed that as t-rex dogs gain maturity there nose power increases dramatically......Also there is a great difference in Mouthy
and Big nose..... Jmho

[danny vansickle]

LOL, never shocked one for running a _rabbit either.

It's hard to shock them off wabbits when you are always shocking them off deer and fox!

Typical line from "no show Sanford" LOL. Didn't you have a thread telling the world about your deer dogs?


Now go run some more pedigrees not your mouth. Surprised you didn't mention that wore out Sport dog and post his pedigree for the 100th time.

i think you two guys need to talk to the dr.phil of the beagle board....a.k.a. chad blair,you all are startin to sound like jimbo and me a year ago

[bluemouse]

first off sav your full of your self and other thing too, no where in my post did I bash anyone , post stated that if one way is the only way we would all be doing it, next I stated I like my hounds just the way they are, never thought anyone was bashing them for the simple fact no one on here has seen or heard my hounds run, third and last post stated if your man enough when discussing other hounds be man enough to state faults you might have, Other than that the rest is made up in your simple mind that I was trying to start something. read post again and see if you can figure it out

[J.C. Blair]

i think you two guys need to talk to the dr.phil of the beagle board....a.k.a. chad blair,you all are startin to sound like jimbo and me a year ago

Maybe I have found a new profession?
Jimbo who is this Bogey you speak of?

[bluemouse]

sorry jc i was doing an assignment for anger management class did I fail