way back when.

[klrconcrete]

Thanks for clearing that right up for me Steve. If I stand in the woods alone to listen to my dog or dogs run-for the next 30 plus years and all the judging that ever takes place is from me and me alone! I will always work at having better dogs than what I am currently running I am not sure how they may suit anyone else but I guess that doesnt matter- its me I am really trying to please. I agree with the competition thing 100% I compete with me continually to get a better dog, no matter what I have at the moment I have to have better. There are no gray areas for me to contend with I know exactly what I want, what I have, what I should have, and what I am willing to accept. I have to be totally honest because the only person that is going to suffer from my lies would be me!

[johns03272008]

well last trial I went to 1 of the judges spent most of the day leaning on a tree in the woods talking on the phone to his girlfriend about what they were going to do and where they were going to go that night the other judge when asked if they could see the score card on their dogs so they could see where they needed improvement the judge answered with I do not use the score cards I keep their scores in my head so the guys asked could he tell them what areas they needed to improve in he stated he did'nt know he could not remember every packs faults and good traits and this was with over 45 entries (good memory?)and it seems every trial at this place is won by the owner or the people putting on the trial been this way for years and if a judge can not make it and someone else is brought in to judge and gives it to the dog who deserves it he is not asked to judge again(they pay 50.00 to judge) now before you staert getting your hackles up about this post let me explain this is not a sanctioned trial but there is big name dogs who enter and do not win even tho they have won gundog trials and fieldtrials these are all fun hunts with nothing but trophies and bragging rights ,most of the time the judges are kin to the owners or their hunting buddies .it cost $25.00 to enter these hunts and as stated earlier these are fun hunts for trophies that cost about $100.00 for all 5 place trophies ,now if they buddie judge in these types of trials what do you think they will do in a real trial with fame and champion points awarded? but with this said you just have to take it with a grain of salt and take your punishment until you get a good ,fair,honest judge and they are out there they are just scarce as a jump dog.and remember oppinions are like A%#holes everyone has one,just my 2 cents

blckcrk-dog i am in now way trying to stur anything up here but i myself have been to a trial matter of fact a AKC MIDWEST TRIAL where good dogs that have won or placed in where at!!! Brad & Bryan Johnson brothers where judging and i know for a fact the one of them was not using a score card but i really didnt care about that i was there to have fun and run some dogs!!! BUT THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT THEY NOT ONLY KNEW WHAT THEY WAS DOING BUT THEY DID IT RIGHT AND also he (The one not using a score card) could tell you what dog did what and why it got picked up or why it didnt move on!!!! I WILL ALWAYS DROP A DOG DOWN IN FRONT OF THEM~!!!! im sorry you didnt like the judges out there at your fun hunt but just because 1 judge didnt know something or didnt use a score card dont think that it was either buddy judging or not want to go to that hunt!!!! maybe next time we all think and this is for everyone out there not just for you blckcrk-dog that just maybe next time we feel the need to complain about the judges WHY DONT WE THE BEAGLERS GO OUT THERE AND JUDGE I myself have judged 1 time and that was a AKC DERBY and i will never say anything to a judge about what happened out there or say anything bad about him becausei know what it took to judge the derby and it aint all about fun you really have to love the sport to want to do that!!!!! i give props and appreciation to any judge out there that is making a effort to better the breed wether you have pen and paper in your hand or you can do it by brain i wish i had the brain cells and memory to do that!!!!!!!!!! JMHO

[Bunnyblaster]

Pass the popcorn please.............