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Post by marr24 »

marr24, why do you assume I have not researched this?
Umm, based on your responses this far. I'm not assuming anything, you may have researched this some, but I can guarantee you that I have much more as this is my future profession. You are speaking from your layperson's perspective, which is fine, but won't go far in a true professional debate.

Since you are so adament that no one is admitting that some blame should be placed on the school system-I will go out on a limb here by saying OF COURSE the schools are to blame for some of these problems. I believe this is incredibly obvious to most and this is the reason it isn't being mentioned. Your blanket statements about public schools and teachers is probably what has produced the amount of responses to this post thus far. Your responses come off as condescending (hope I didn't misspell that LOL). The interesting thing is that I could produce many generalizations and blanket statements regarding home schooling and home schooled children as well, but those would not be all that researched nor educated so I will refrain.

Back to beagle talk for me, I get enough of this debate elsewhere LOL!! :D

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The problems with the school system is directly proportional to the problems in society in general. When we took God out of schools and replaced him with multiculturalism, liberalism and then removed the right from parents to discipline their children our problems began.
It's not most of the teachers fault but rather the fault of those in politics, hollyweird, liberal news media, judicial system and the far left who want to dumb down the USA and keep us from being a great nation. People need to quit worrying about political correctness and speak out and most importantly - vote. This country needs a viable third party. The Republicans and Democrats look like twins these days 90% of the time.
In summation, the school system is being destroyed by the same factions that are destroying society at large in this once great nation. It's not too late for change.

Just my humble opinion. ;)

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Post by S.R.Patch »

Tim H wrote: I wonder if I could tape tongues on the chins of the mouthy dogs and would that make them be quiet? :lol:
Believe it or not, being pointed out seperate among your kind does get results, whether child or hound... ;)

You may use tongues, tails or whatever suits your cause but, no hands on, a time-out or sending the pup home is all the punishment allowed. Requiring them in the starting pen on Saturdays is allowed, but not this weekend, we have a family trip planned... :lol:

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If a teacher would have had a gun at Virginia Tech, things might have been alot different. I have a concieled carry permit and I have found that I carry my gun less now that I have one than before I had one because all the stores dont want you to carry them in there and you could lose your permit for carrying it in the wrong place. I say that all the law abiding citizens should be issued a handgun and a permit to carry anywhere, I bet the crime rate would drop considerably. ]
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clousewt wrote:If a teacher would have had a gun at Virginia Tech, things might have been alot different. I have a concieled carry permit and I have found that I carry my gun less now that I have one than before I had one because all the stores dont want you to carry them in there and you could lose your permit for carrying it in the wrong place. I say that all the law abiding citizens should be issued a handgun and a permit to carry anywhere, I bet the crime rate would drop considerably. ]
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Post by Tim H »

S.R.Patch, Wow!!! I'm so excited!!! All your hounds have graduated with the exact same grades!!! They all got C's and are well adjusted according to the standards they set for themselves. When they run rabbits they are 25 wide and none of them gets ahead of the other and if one falls behind they have all been trained to slowdown. The rule is that none go faster than the slowest. No reason to embarrass any of them. :oops:

If they lose the rabbit what you will need to do is reward them all and go find them another rabbit. :D If you have any dogs that have been trained in another system and are getting A's, you will need to use those as the leaders of this pack until they adjust to the lower standards. Some dogs trained to higher standards will not adjust to the lower standards but it still should not disrupt the pack as they will all be good followers. :P

Field Trials will need to change. Painting #s on them is just too harsh, it singles them out as individuals and puts too much pressure on them. Also the idea of scoring them is going to have to stop. Everyone of them is a Champion. They all give an effort and should be rewarded with a trophy. If you start scoring them and comparing them to dogs trained with other methods then it might make it seem as though the method I used is ineffective and people might get the perception that this system isn't working. We know that dog society is messed up and so don't blame the system.

This system would obviously work better if people would just stop saying it's not working and realize that the dogs were bad when they came and the parents were not helping. :lol:

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Post by wvduece »

ted nugent said the 2nd amendent is all the consealed permit he needs :roll: :roll: jb
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Post by Tim H »

I say that all the law abiding citizens should be issued a handgun and a permit to carry anywhere, I bet the crime rate would drop considerably.


I think that this might drop the crime rate but it most assuredly would raise the rate of accidental shootings. Having a gun and obeying the law do not teach you how to use one safely.

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Post by Pike Ridge Beagles »

I like those laws down in Georgia and Texas where it is the law that every home must own a gun. I also agree with Ted Nugent about the 2nd Ammendment being all he needs to carry concealed. I carry whenever I want and don't believe in registries that the govt. want so when they ban all guns they know which houses to hit first. ;)

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:hammer: DEAD HORSE :whip:

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Post by APFII »

Tim H; An old saying . If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Add that to your home curriculum instead of the coarse in arrogance.


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Post by Tim H »

Those who have chosen to attack me and try to insult me personally need to reread this post. While I have injected humor into some of my posts I have not made any personal comments with the intent to insult anyone.

I am giving my opinion on the public education system. Why do you have to resort to such tactics? Can't you give your opinion and explain why you disagree with mine?

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Post by DarrinG »

Tim, I've read the thread and I agree with you.

I will only add this:

When the Gideons association can no longer come to school and pass out New Testament bibles to kids who want one, but the schools can require kids to read books about witchcraft and warlocks, the problem starts. We've told God He is not welcome but roll out the red carpet for Satan. I need not say further.

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Naah, schools ain't dangerous... the guards are in place, security is tight...


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Post by Jr Walker »

I am a Sophmore in high school and way i see it the biggest problem are the teachers not the students...I had a teacher last year that was crazy and had break downs ect. and even trew a book at a student once and if that teacher had a gun i sure wouldnt take a step close to that school but the teacher kept her job because she is a girls basketball coach.

The school i goto a somewhat ruff as far as gangs and drugs ect. and all schools would be safer if they would just pull out the bad kids and ones that dont want to be there for good and not have them there pulling the rest down to their level...I think the law system went down the drain when they took the fear of God out of it and when they took God out of schools :lol:


btw I had the cheif of police agree with me ;)
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