Do you or would you give a trial on a dog!!!!!!!

Larry G · Post by **Larry G** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:27 am

Johnny, I also respect your thoughts. but asking a ton for a piece of crap is not that unusual. My Bud and I recently met one of the high dollar guys, and my friend was so impressed that he bought a pup on the spot and was full of big plans for it. Then, we ran with the dude, neither of us would feed what he is asking $750 for and U no who is sick. Sorry, pal.

jonnyringo · Post by **jonnyringo** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:48 pm

mud wrote:Johnny,I respect your thoughts just disagree buddy.No harm in that LOL

No harm at all my friend. We are aloud to have differnet opinions. If we all agreed on everything the world would be a boring place.

Take care,

jr (Ed)

lee ga · Post by **lee ga** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:48 pm

if its a close friend i would give them a trial. people i don't know are welcome to come to my place and run the hound in the wild all they want. other than the occasional exception, i wouldn't buy a hound or use a stud that i couldn't see run. im impressed when i see a stud or dog owner that does not hesitate to give a guy ample oppurtunity to see their hound run. they usually don't have anything to hide.

warddog · Post by **warddog** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:06 pm

I had to go back to the original post to see just exactly what was asked. Jon asked about giving a trial which I interpret to mean that the prospective buyer takes the dog for a week or two. That is what I responded to when I said NO WAY ever again. One of the coon hounds that I lost ws to one of my best hunting buddies at the time. Notice I said at the time as we no longer speak. If I have dogs for sale they can be tried right here with my collar and nameplate on it. If you snap your lead onto it your collar with your nameplate will be on that dog and you better like it as you will be married to it. I've went and looked at many, many dogs and it don't take a week or two to tell if they can run a rabbit. I also traveled quite a distance to look at a HIGH priced dog and in an hour I could tell you that the dog could NOT circle a rabbit by itself. We gave it the benefit of the doubt and let it have the opportunity to start 8 different rabbits in which we saw and not one did it circle. The fella asked if we wanted to see it with another dog that he had brought. We said NO we had actually saw enough in the first hour to know that dog couldn't circle a rabbit if it was tied to it's a**. If someone tells me they need two weeks to decide if the dog was described as I stated then I don't the time to wait on their decision.

jon cornett · Post by **jon cornett** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:55 pm

I agree that it doesnt take a week or two to see if a dog will handle, hunt, jump and run a rabbit. anyone can take the dogs i have now and hunt over them and they will do same with you as they do for me. any dog that has been trained right, run and gunned, one should be able to tell on one trip afield if they can get the job done. now i know there are instances like one man dogs, seen them, maybe a bad weather day where a dog doesnt do well or go where there are very few if any rabbits. i guess ive been lucky as the dogs ive bought or traded for have all done exactly like i was told without me trying them out and to those who ive dealt with, thank you for being honest.

mud · Post by **mud** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:16 pm

warddog,no problem with the way you see it either.Again as a buyer I can deal with someone else. I think it's about perspective.I have what I consider 3 decent dogs all females.They have above average hunt no trash or cold trailing handle will load themslves in the truck.All can be called to put on a rabbit.All can run a rabbit without help. Running speed is about a 6-8 depending on conditions.All will take a gun.In my eyes decent dogs.Far from very good and a heck of a long way from great.I pack run with friends who are very competive in ARHA and AKC midwest.These guys routinely place in the top 5 and even won the world and little world hunt.Some days they dust me pretty good.Other days I have a dog or 2 that more than holds its on.I was running last spring my buddy said that dog is a field champion I tuirned down 1200.Another dog he had at that time a top 5 finisher at the world hunt.I need 1500 for him he said.My female was having a good day.She jumped 5 rabbits and was getting her fair share of checks.He said what will you take for her? I said 2 thousand.He said are you crazy? I was having some fun with him..Mine not worth that she is just a decent dog.His were not worth what he was asking but his phone rang non stop while we ran.In my eyes again about perspective.I have owned a few good dogs in my time.I know the difference.He did not have it nor did I.It takes me a little time to make up my mind.Thats why I like to watch a dog run more than once. On that day you would and others watching them run been very impressed with my female.When in fact she is just a decent dog.More running would have showed you her faults.Heck with the prices my buddy is putting on hounds a man needs a month trial LOL Good topic.Did not mean to be so long winded.

ringtail · Post by **ringtail** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:53 pm

JON,,,,,,,,what would you do if you trade a guy a dog you know nothing about except what the guy you got it from had told you,,,,,,you tell this guy what the other guy told you and he takes it ,,,,then a week and a half later tells you its not what the man said it was and demands his dog back what would you do,,,,,,,,just as an example

CPC · Post by **CPC** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:59 pm

I will give trial on all grown hounds. I have sent them to MI, NC, GA, MS,or where ever the buyer is from. I have nothing to hide from what I describe the hound as.

Boomerx · Post by **Boomerx** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:14 am

I've never sold a hound I didn't give the fellow a month or so trial on. I've only had one brought back and she may have been the best gun dog I ever sold. I was surprised when he brought her back and asked him why? He told me "Sally was not by my feet when I jumped a rabbit" I asked "where was she?" He replied, "she was off running her own rabbit, but I want her always by my feet, so if I jump one, she'll run that one" Well, he's not getting a hound from me that'll stay by his feet, so I returned his money and sold the hound to a gunner who loved her. No accounting for taste?

jonnyringo · Post by **jonnyringo** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:43 am

Boomerx wrote:I've never sold a hound I didn't give the fellow a month or so trial on. I've only had one brought back and she may have been the best gun dog I ever sold. I was surprised when he brought her back and asked him why? He told me "Sally was not by my feet when I jumped a rabbit" I asked "where was she?" He replied, "she was off running her own rabbit, but I want her always by my feet, so if I jump one, she'll run that one" Well, he's not getting a hound from me that'll stay by his feet, so I returned his money and sold the hound to a gunner who loved her. No accounting for taste?

LOL - Sounds like one of those walkie talkie lovers. Jump the rabbit for the dog and walk with him while he circles it. That is funny stuff. You made me laugh.

warddog · Post by **warddog** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:26 pm

I have no problem with a person trying a dog as much as they like in my presence. I've bought numerous dogs and NEVER have I ever taken one on trial as I just don't want to put myself into a situation of taking responsibility for someone else's property. To many uncontrolable things can happen whenever you cut a dog loose in the wild. I've traveled and tried many a hounds including coon hounds that took several nights hunting to see their best or worst but most generally you can tell about a beagle being ran with the lights on in a couple trips. I don't have any problem with someone who wants a trial but I'll just keep the dog before I ever let one go out on trial again. I'm not in it to sell or jocky dogs anyway so I have no real hurry to sell one.