Free Beagles

[beerdrinking bob]

the people that dont want us killing animals are the same people that bitch about having to spend money on fences to keep them out of their garden and they are the same people that bitch about car insurance being so high because of all the deer that are being hit. go figure

[Beagled1]

And what's honestly so wrong about me wanting to adopt from shelters? No awy I'd support the puppy mill, back yard breeders up here.. sorry if that upsets you guys, but hey its me..

Honestly ... the majority of Beagles in shelters are there because they were sold as pets by puppy mills/irresponsible breeders whose bottom line was profit, not the well being of the breed/indivigual hound. They people they were sold to should have never had a Beagle in the first place, then don't know what to do with it and dump it at the pound.
Its sad to say, but I wouldn't go to a shelter for a pet again for a few reasons.
First, because very few, if any well bred hounds would end up there. Hunters would either sell or cull what was not right for their breeding program. Other ethical breeders would either offer a first right of refusal clause or would assist the owner in finding a new home should the dog ever need to be re homed. Its not the Beagles of good breeders who are ending up in shelters! I screen my buyers because I know with every fibre of my being the breed is not right for MOST pet homes! I turn down 10-20+ homes for every ONE puppy I sell!
Secondly, because they are not coming from responsible breeders who gave thought to anything other than $$$, we don't know their health background - don;t know if their sire dropped dead of a genetic cardiac tumor at 3 years old of if the dam had luxated patells or epilepsy or worse, temperament problems that may not show up right away ... Its a big risk to adopt from some shelters, and in my area, MANY MANY unstable dogs have come out of less than reputable "holier than thou no kill" shelters. Personally, I believe if more unstable dogs were euthanized, the shelters would be much less overrun. That and the banning of Pit bulls, but thats another story
Another reason I no longer patronize shelters is because having worked with them to re home rescued dogs, I know many will lie like a rug to make an adoption! I had one Rottie that could not be any younger than 5-6, and a very "reputable" and well known NY Rottie rescue advised me to list him as 2 yrs They're also notorious for telling the public their Pit mixes are "Lab mixes". HUGE fricken difference!!!
Also, I don't want someone else's problem. Many of the older dogs are surrendered because they were not trained and bad habits were perpetuated for months or years. All dogs need molding, training, but I don't want serious baggage that I must go to extraordinary measures to correct.
Just with my last litter, two of my puppy buyers mentioned they had never gone to a breeder before & had always acquired pets from shelters. They intentionally solicited a breeder becuase they'd been burned by shelter dogs so many times before they felt going to a good breeder was their last resort. JMHO.

[clousewt]

In the words of brother Ted Nugent, all the tree huggers and animal rights people can bend over and eat me. They all talk a good game about saving animals but most of them are just self important people that are so unhappy that they try to make happy people, "hunters", unhappy like them. Tom Clouse

[cooper]

Sav, did your teacher tell you that she got that saying from Abe Lincoln? Tom Gross

[FetchingPixels]

fellows pull up her past posts you,ll see what she thinks about hunters.

You have no idea what I think of hunters. I actually think there all right. I know someone who rescues beagles, involved with beagle rescue, and she refuses to let them be hunting beagles. I think that's what they are bred for. And for your information, Im native american so I have a line of hunters in my family. Deer hunting and fishing is big in my family.

I wish thats all mine ate was strings,,, Scooter loves hats the best!!! You ain't a PETA lady are you???

Crew Chief

Absoultely Not. I hate PETA with a passion. They cause more problems then stop (if any).

Fetching Pixels,
Your right about IDIOTS here is a good story. I know this woman who got a beagle as a pet. a couple months go by and she ask me if i want it and i told her no, and asked why she was getting rid of it. she said it won't stop barking at that cage and i asked what is in the cage and she says i got a new rabbit and she won't stop barking at it. DUH
I don't think she has the beagle anymore.

Now that's funny! I can't wait to share that one lol!

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I also agree with Pixels. You got a lot of people that do their breeding the right way, but you got just tat many more who breed everything in their pens. And I'm not sayin they're wrong for doin it because it's their dogs but I do think it's stupid. As for the guy you thinks he can come on here and insult people I just assume he leaves the board. THis is a clean board for the most part and it's people like him that give Peta enough ammo that they're probably gonna wipe out hunting all together one day.

I know what you mean. My cousin got 2 dogs. A male and female choc lab, from different people. He bred them and sold them for 350+, and people were actually dumb enough to by them. They had no papers, no first worming, no nothing! And to top it off, his brother got a female from the litter that he plans on mating with his choc lab that was from the same litter as the mother. He's breeding imbred and planning on selling the pups for that, and people will never know that buy the pups! I assure you I have no association with PETA. The thing I love the most in the world is dogs.. so I volunteer at a shelter, and try to help out, thats it. I can't make it there often, but I go walk dogs, doesn't mean im an animal rights activist.. just that im for a shelter dog!

fellows pull up her past posts you,ll see what she thinks about hunters.

People acting like this will surely turn non-hunters against us.

Heck, she tried to join a beagle club where she lives and was turned down! What does that say for beaglers?

Through private conversations, I would say she is way beyond what she was when she first came here. She has wanted to learn here and other boards as well. Ya'll really need to lay off of her and give her a chance.

Besides, she was right with what she posted.

Yes, I'm very upset about being turned down, because that's in town, and the one I'm writting to now is out of town about an hour. Which makes it hard to get too because I work fulltime and go school fulltime and am trying to get a parttime job on the side. Thanks AS, I'm sorry I come off a bit animal rights activist, I know i'm not the norm thats around the beagle boards...

swamper i for one think hunters fishmen trapper hell you name it has buried our heads in the sand long enough i don,t see not fighting for your rights in the usa, the girl in question comes on this post and pisss on us all the time. i for one think the usa needs to not act like england. they can,t run fox there with hounds anymore because people would not fight.she has a right to her opinion but if she starts pissing on people we should have the right to fight back.

But, I didn't pee on hunters? That I don't get! I might have been misunderstanding of the hunting world when I first joined, and have truely learned a lot. Why would I pee on hunters though when I plan to hunt with my dog? Everybody has the right to fight back, sure. But if you have a problem with me or something feel free to PM. I know I am probably somewhat misunderstood because I don't explain myself clearly.

I retired from a job working with a company in there computer area. I have just been blown away with our ability to communicate about our sport. What i really hate is the few that use the internet to belittle others. In starting this thread i did not have any idea that someone should try to hurt others with words. I can only imagine some very very small individual behind a keyboard that would probably run if he had to face who they disgrace. Words hurt either verbally or by a keyboard..AS ABSHIRE SAYS CANT WE ALL GET ALONG..

I would love for that to be! Seriously guys, I 'm not that bad of a person!
I'm just a little different that's all.

Beagles are probably one of the most common dogs. Why ? Because they are so darn cute and also years back most people hunted for food and just so happened they are good at it. People also just let their beagles run and if they got bred so be it. Hmm with all that going on probably increased the numbers greatly. Consider this you dont see Bull Terriers given away free but how many of those have you seen on the farms and what purpose do they serve. JMO, Paul

Yeah I do think they are cute and one of the most attractive dogs. But beagles and labs {beagles don't even touch labs}, that it would just be easier to adopt a dog, then find a good breeder.

swamper i for one think hunters fishmen trapper hell you name it has buried our heads in the sand long enough i don,t see not fighting for your rights in the usa, the girl in question comes on this post and pisss on us all the time. i for one think the usa needs to not act like england. they can,t run fox there with hounds anymore because people would not fight.she has a right to her opinion but if she starts pissing on people we should have the right to fight back.

You are right....and...wrong.

I don't care what Anti's think. They can kiss my arse and smile about it when they get done.

However, the non-hunters (I think 85% of Americans) is the folks I want to befriend. Most are not against hunting yet they don't hunt. Turn them and we're through.

FP didn't say anything about any hunter in her posts. What she said weeks ago was out of line and I've told her that. However, after talking with her away from this board and on other boards, I think, no, I know, from what I hear from her that her attitude has changed. She is trying to join a club near her and wants her dog to run rabbits.

If you want to change someone's mind about yourself, you certainly don't bash them and send personal attacks towards them. SOunds like something Howard Dean would do. lol

One thing I've learned from the internet is to not take things personal, what's the point? But for someone to say something along the lines as to bad your parents didn't have an abortion.. Is kind of hurtful and way out of line, because I'm doing my best to make a good life for myself. Regardless bottom line, I am still a girl and have feelings like a girl. I thought about that all night at work, and could barely concentrate. I think that's borderline harassment.

ive owned beagles off and on for 15 years now. i know people that just dump dogs on the side of the road because they cant get them started or they run deer. if the dog is no count they just dump it on a back road and hope it finds a home. some do find a home, some get hit by cars,some get shot for wondering onto someones property and some go to the pound. me i think if the dog is no count you should just cull it and get it over with.

I actually agree with you. If there is one thing I am not it is pro-life. Sorry if that upsets anyone. But I think why not take care of some problems before more start?

Someone said to look through the girls posts and I did. Didn't see anything out of the way. Seems to me like she just wants to learn.

Exactly. I adopted a hound dog, and really want him to have a purpose and give him a good life.

And what's honestly so wrong about me wanting to adopt from shelters? No awy I'd support the puppy mill, back yard breeders up here.. sorry if that upsets you guys, but hey its me..

Honestly ... the majority of Beagles in shelters are there because they were sold as pets by puppy mills/irresponsible breeders whose bottom line was profit, not the well being of the breed/indivigual hound. They people they were sold to should have never had a Beagle in the first place, then don't know what to do with it and dump it at the pound.
Its sad to say, but I wouldn't go to a shelter for a pet again for a few reasons.
First, because very few, if any well bred hounds would end up there. Hunters would either sell or cull what was not right for their breeding program. Other ethical breeders would either offer a first right of refusal clause or would assist the owner in finding a new home should the dog ever need to be re homed. Its not the Beagles of good breeders who are ending up in shelters! I screen my buyers because I know with every fibre of my being the breed is not right for MOST pet homes! I turn down 10-20+ homes for every ONE puppy I sell!
Secondly, because they are not coming from responsible breeders who gave thought to anything other than $$$, we don't know their health background - don;t know if their sire dropped dead of a genetic cardiac tumor at 3 years old of if the dam had luxated patells or epilepsy or worse, temperament problems that may not show up right away ... Its a big risk to adopt from some shelters, and in my area, MANY MANY unstable dogs have come out of less than reputable "holier than thou no kill" shelters. Personally, I believe if more unstable dogs were euthanized, the shelters would be much less overrun. That and the banning of Pit bulls, but thats another story
Another reason I no longer patronize shelters is because having worked with them to re home rescued dogs, I know many will lie like a rug to make an adoption! I had one Rottie that could not be any younger than 5-6, and a very "reputable" and well known NY Rottie rescue advised me to list him as 2 yrs They're also notorious for telling the public their Pit mixes are "Lab mixes". HUGE fricken difference!!!
Also, I don't want someone else's problem. Many of the older dogs are surrendered because they were not trained and bad habits were perpetuated for months or years. All dogs need molding, training, but I don't want serious baggage that I must go to extraordinary measures to correct.
Just with my last litter, two of my puppy buyers mentioned they had never gone to a breeder before & had always acquired pets from shelters. They intentionally solicited a breeder becuase they'd been burned by shelter dogs so many times before they felt going to a good breeder was their last resort. JMHO.

I understand that rescues and adoptions have their problems. Believe me when I got Jake, I thought my god what a dumb dog, but I love him anyawys. And actually after working with him everyday.. He can do everything my black lab can, and it only took him a few months to learn at 5. Nobody taught him anything before, he was 5 and they taught him how to sit in the shelter.. He can now do all basic obedience.. That's all I plan to teach him. I understand that most shelter dogs are there for behaivoral reasons, but I kind of like the challenge you know? And I really don't like puppies. I like dogs that are mid-age/senior. I do plan on buying a cavalier king charles puppy from a breeder in the next few years but that's the only kind of dog I would buy.
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In the words of brother Ted Nugent, all the tree huggers and animal rights people can bend over and eat me. They all talk a good game about saving animals but most of them are just self important people that are so unhappy that they try to make happy people, "hunters", unhappy like them. Tom Clouse

I'll admit Im somewhat liberal, but I'm not an animal rights activist. I'm just a big dog fan, and a few breeds I really love.. beagles and labs, mostly.
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I've spent a lot of time replying to this. So hopefully people will actually read it.. lol. Have a good night, guys, and girls.

[crewchf]

Dang,,, you used up all our INK!!!!!!!!!!! Where do ya load the ink on these here computers??? I'm scared mines gonna run out here at the shop..

Crew Chief

[DRamey]

Ashlee, I appreciate the way that you have answered all the concerns of the members of this board. We can be a strong-willed lot (being kind here) when we think that our way of life is threatened. You obviously know, from your background that hunting is threatened by those ho know little of it and most of us are passionate about our sport. Thank you for taking the time to answer the concerns of some of us,and I apologize for those who wouldn't take your requests seriously to participate in a beagle club, it's their loss, as you are obviously open-minded and are ready to learn about the sport. By the way, without my searching on line, what is a cavalier king charles puppy?

[sav]

Cooper,

No she never did mention where she got it from, thanks for the info he was an intelligent man. I never mentioned that this teacher was female, she was, funny you guessed it!!

[beaglehandler]

If I remember, at one time there was a post about the price of beagles compared to other breeds. If I remember the discussion went towards the number of dogs being bred in each breed. I think I remember one post stating that how many would be willing not to breed for a couple of years. I don't remember the title of that post but sure would like to read it again. And would suggest that a few others do the same.