Dogs being attacked!!!!!!!!!!!!

DRamey · Post by **DRamey** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 6:33 pm

I lost a hound summer before last. Heard him make 2 really strange squeals, only about 75 yards away. My other 2 hounds came back with tails between legs. I walked all over the area for days with snake chaps on and never saw any trace of him.. He was wearing an e-collar and I tried going there in the dark and trying to locate the flash and no luck. Never saw a snake, but on later trips I heard yotes howling immediately after the hounds opened on a rabbit. I carry a .22 w/ 9 shots every trip. Had one that day, too. I'm fairly certain that was what got my hound by the way the others were behaving. Curious as to what you guys think???

EagleBeagler · Post by **EagleBeagler** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 6:25 pm

havent had them come in that close but i carry a 9 mm for just that reason and all i can tell the game warden is you will just have to do whatever but i am not going into a field with out someway to protect my dogs if you ask me i owe them that they are outting there heart and soul out for me the least i can do is protect them

Dave H · Post by **Dave H** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 4:44 pm

I live In central vt and we have a huge coyote issue Huge. We are allowed to hunt them year around and at night with out use of lights. That isnt enough!!! We are staritng to see coyote derbys one of them has been anual for 5 years now. I personaly have been lucky not to have had an attack on hounds but know a guy who has and with tracking collars on it happens that fast that you cant do anything. I know I have posted about coyote issues under hare season on news from the north you can read that about other issues with coyotes. I will add this I have been tring to trap cottintail in a abandon pasture next to my home. started first snow and located about 6 differnt bunnies and every day coyote tracks are more and rabbit tracks are fewer and down to only one rabbit left. We got about a foot of fresh snow 2 days ago and its full moon I went out to check the trap and found in that pasture where a coyote had run a deer down and jumped on it in that pasture on fresh snow hair was everywhere and a huge puff was in the snow!! the deer got up and ran from that attack but the coyote was still running after it. I followed for a while and the track went up the mountain so I left them. I took a hand full of hair home to show my wife she couldn't beleave it! We hear differnt packs almost nightly comming from 4 differnt directions. I am going to try the meat ball thing for real this spring. sorry to hear about all the loss you have all endured and I go along with every rabbit hunter should take one day and hunt coyote!!!! Happy hunting all!!!!!!!!!! just my 2 cents

tom young · Post by **tom young** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:39 am

This is why I started trapping again this year I have caught 1 yote 1 grey 1 red 2 bobcat

wvduece · Post by **wvduece** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:44 am

i had 2 females attacked last spring we were running about 8 dogs they all came back scared to death n would get out from under our feet the 2 females came back finally n had bad cuts on their back n sides dont know how they escaped right now we have sopme guys trapping they have caught 15 yotes n 6 bob cats n one fox that was solid black never seen a black fox before or havent even heard of a black fox they will be trapping for another month hope they get all the darn yotes only goood yote is a DEAD one west virginia is getting populated real bad by yotes too i belive the DNR stocked them to control the deer herd but they deny it jb

Hardtime01 · Post by **Hardtime01** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:00 pm

goopslaw, I'm not sure I would count on 2 15" beagles standing their ground against a coyote. Heck I wouldn't count on any beagle standing their ground against much of anything except another beagle.

I have seen 2 big males kill a yote in a foxpen, but they would both fight. I think that if the dogs in the pack will fight they should be okay with one. Seems everyone hates a dog that will fight, when this is a time when it would be a good thing...My 2 cents...Mark

Dave H · Post by **Dave H** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:40 pm

tim s, your wolf issue could be curbed by stratigically Placing anti-freeze meat cured steaks or meat balls. In order to be caught they would have to prove beyond a reasonal dought that it was you and that is next to impossable to get that kind of proof. My 2 cents[/b]

wvduece · Post by **wvduece** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:01 pm

we have had several attacked by them yotes best thing i have found is just as soon as we hear one howl one of us will fire a pistol a couple times n they seem to leave i had 2 attacked one nite and they even had bells on bells mite be a detterent but after they get use to bells they dont seem to pay them no mind i still use bells but only as a locator jb

NorWester · Post by **NorWester** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:38 pm

Goopslaw and a couple of others have the right idea......coyotes coming into your area is bad for running hare or rabbits.....but its a great opportunity for running coyotes!! Yes beagles can run yotes, and if your worried about a bay up throw a couple of strong dogs in the mix (like an airedale or two) it will only take a couple of hunts before coyotes start bookin out of dodge when they hear hounds comin. From what I understand the yotes have to associate the hounds with bad things about to happen, which is why trapping doesnt affect how the yotes view dogs. Up here we dont have a big yote population yet......but we do have wolves. There are isolated incidents with them but for the most part they dont mess with anything to do with humans, and thats because a bad wolf like a bad coyote gets dead up here.....they arent protected.

Hare Hunter · Post by **Hare Hunter** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 4:55 pm

It may not be plausable for every beagler but if there are enough guys living close together and each got a large hound such as a plott or walker and got together one day/night per week and put the run on them yutes they will soon learn to vacate the area when they here hounds running. I don't think you can eliminate yotes from any area for long but you can educate them. Just a thought guys. 1 more dog to feed but maybe many many beagles could be saved. Plus you can get hooked on running yotes. It's FUN Hare

grim · Post by **grim** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 7:56 pm

I'm from michigan (well was) but i have had a yote come in and run with the pack but out solo a bitch I had an yote try to attack a female once. Wolves yes have seen them get hounds i was bear hunting in the upper and we found a dead hound tha was killed by a wolf. have seen it happen out coon hunting too in the upper.

sgc · Post by **sgc** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 6:55 pm

Used to be you worried all the time about coyotes in the UP. Now you REALLY have to worry about wolves. Bells on your beagles don't help at all. They're actually more of a dinner bell for wolves. A guy I know lost 2 of his beagles to wolves this early Fall and his friend lost 1 dog. They've also killed bear dogs up there again this year. The thing is, they're not unusual, they're pretty common now; and you can't do anything about it. You can't kill them. It's a Federal offense. The same guy I know who lost 2 beagles, swears that they're starting to key in on beagles running rabbits in his area all of the time now. Others I've talked to say that they're keying in on their big hounds also.