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Yearly shots are a combination of things that never need a booster and things that run out within 10-11 months. I always give me dogs a 7 way and rabies booster annually. Puppies, like babies, are protected by the antibodies in the mother's milk. Once the milk is gone, it takes several months for them to build up their own immunity. The general rule of all dog breeders is six months for the pup to develop its own immunity.

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keep your dogs up to date on boosters and give pups their shots before weaning and then every 2 weeks and spray everything with bleach.
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havenskennels wrote:parvo is still alive in the winter because my mom brought a toy poodle here for us to hide from my little sister for 1 night so that she could give it to her for christmas and when my wife picked it up from the breeders house it was throwing up and acting sick, my wife thought that it was from the car ride home but when she took it to the vet the next day to get its shots they tested it positive for parvo, it died that night. I guess parvo is just attracted to me for some reason.
Dustin, Mark Stump gave it too Walter Sharp 20 years ago he still loses lab pups from it now and again.The only way to make it dormant is a tractor and Plow, Plow er deep and disk reseed with grass.Its over.Its just hard to do that to your yard,so Clorox and a tobbaco spayer is your number 2 option.
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so Clorox and a tobbaco spayer is your number 2 option
Jimmie, does the bleach have any affect on the grass? If not this might be a good solution to a lot of the parvo problems.

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heck id like to see the bleach just burn my grass up, at least just for the summer so that I dont have to mow.lol. but my wife would probably kill me.
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I had a friend bring a rotweiller pup to my yard years ago... it had parvo... it died within a week... I had pups in a whelping box and lost all but two of them, the sire and dam cost me 1600.00 at the vet for transfusions and a week of nursing.

I bleached the fire out of my yard... when it dried... I bleached it again... cared not about any grass... let it die.
Best I racall... grass was fine and I had no more problems with parvo after that.

When I sold the house I informed the new owners of the occurance (should they have any pets) and I have not heard of any
additional outbreaks.... that was 15 years ago.

Lesson was learned... now each weekend my kennels get sprayed (I have pea gravel floor) with ODO-Ban which is also a disinfectant
as well as a odor control... I have not whelped my first litter here yet... but you can bet the advice of a bleach bath for the boots
and dininfecting the hands before and after entering the puppy area will be strictly adhered to... you lose a lot in a very short period
of time if precautions are not taken.
Good luck... I hope all turns out well for ya.
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thanks for all the advice guys I will take as much as I can get and I will definatly try out all of these precautions, because I know first hand that a dog fighting parvo at the vet is alot more expensive than a few gallons of bleach. Thanks again
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A little mention of mother's milk and antibodies: the puppies get all the protection they're going to get from the mother's colostrum which is only present in the milk for the first 2 or 3 days. After that, there's no protection in the milk -- it's just milk. It's strictly coincidental that the antibodies wear off about the same time puppies are weaned.

The antibodies will wear off at about 5 weeks whether they are nursing or not. This is why I start my shots at 5-1/2 weeks. If you start too soon, while the mother's antibodies are still present, they will interfere with the "take" of the vaccine, even though the first shot doesn't really provide any protection. The first shot "formats" the system to facilitate the take of the second shot -- which I give at 8 weeks.

A lot of vets will tell you puppies don't need shots until they are 8 weeks old. I'm convinced these vets have mostly a housedog practice. Our hunting dogs and puppies are at a much higher risk of being exposed than a dog that never leaves the yard. If nothing else, we bring it in on our feet. If you wait until 8 weeks to give that first shot, it's doing the work of the one I give at 5-1/2 weeks - just formatting the system, then they won't get any real protection until the second shot at 12 weeks. This means they have gone from age 5 weeks to 12 without any real protection against parvo. That is asking for disaster.

5-1/2 weeks - 7-way
8 weeks - 8-way (with Lepto and Corona)
12 weeks - 7-way
16 weeks - 7-way
20 weeks - 5-way and a rabies.

If you follow this stringent routine they won't need much the rest of their lives except rabies to stay local county compliant, and their wormings/heartworm prev. If you live in the extreme northeast, you may want to revaccinate for Lepto every couple of years.

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jmho...
First 2 shots- 5-way puppy
3rd shot- 7-way
worm every 2 weeks

I've become over the years, a big believer in the natural strength of the immune system, I believe the same with children. I believe a natural high tier immune system will out-perform all the sterile care and immunizations you can give.
As children, everything went to our mouths. We ran out side with our shoes and socks off till the weather was cold enough to numb our feet. We were a dirty rough and ready lot that seldom got sick, looking back, I believe our feet and hands taking root in the earth early, our lungs filled with fresh air and exercise primed our systems for survival. You ever wonder why so many children today are sickly and have breathing problems?
Now, I'm not saying to throw all the kid out into the cold and the sickness will all go away, but I believe in general, the overall population would be better off if we weren't so over sterilized and chemically treated from birth.
My hounds, those I select to breed from, and the care of the puppies and survival rates have all become also a part of the standard and selection process for future hounds, I want them to be able to make it on their own with as little interference from me as possible.
I've only had parvo a couple times, and in treating those cases, my friend and respected vet said, "those survivors, were more likely to make it because of their immune system strength, than anything we did for them, we just bought some time".
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When I had parvo here and had a litter a short time later I used this for the first two rounds and started at 35 days. http://www.neotechvaccines.com/neopar.htm I bleached as best I could but had less than an ideal set up with the kennel being on patio blocks instead of concrete or above ground. Also you may want to take this into consideration too http://www.neotechvaccines.com/toolpage_pdeath.htm I would still follow up with a 5 way and or 7 way as what is needed in your area,do your homework on corrona and lepto. I have never given the 7 way till the last round at the soonest, and mosty as a yearly booster. I know a lot of people do but it has risks. You can buy a 10 dose vial of Neopar for around 30.00 so if your litter is less than 5 you could get two rounds if you handled it properly. You will need needles and syringes, I deal with these guys. http://www.lambertvetsupply.com Hope this info proves usefull and good luck.

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The last time I had all my adult dogs in for their annual rabies shot my vet pretty much told me I was also going to vaccinate for Lepto whetherI wanted it or not. When I asked why, he said, "Lepto has seen a resurgence everywhere."

I give the Coronavirus on the second shot only and they do fine. When I was taking the pups to the vet for all shots that was the routine he used so I continued the tradition. As far as whether or not to give the Lepto according to area, I can't see where it would hurt to at least give it once in the puppy shot line-up, and then boosters as per your geographical activity. Google "leptospirosis resurgence" and it seems to be back in everyone's back yard again.

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I never give shots past the age of 3 months. Thus far, Parvo free. Knock Wood!!

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I had one pup at five weeks old, six in the litter got parvo two year ago,counting the pups i had 15 or 16 other dogs my brother three dogs that never had no shots of any that him not me the pup was tested the vet said parvo I thought man I'am in trouble but luckly everthing turn out aright kept the pups a little longer to make sure nothing was wrong with them don't figure I give my hounds shots every year till there six or seven years old I have been told after a year thats 3 or four shots your good but I do it anway

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