Tri Tronics Classic 70 G2's...Important....Please Read

CHRIS WHITT · Post by **CHRIS WHITT** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:20 pm

o.k. first off i think tri-tronics are great and i have had problems with my g2 unit BUT it was solved very quickly and easy..... when i read this post i was stuck by the thought that turning the unit up to 6 verses 1or2 and any other level will make the unit REACH OUT THERE!!!!!!!! if the unit is not responding at the lower level turning the unit to a higher level will not make it respond. in other words the numbers on the transmiter ONLY change the level of stimulation and not the distance you can stimulate a dog. also scott sorry for your loss....

I know it does'nt sound right but using just the tone feature mine will reach out several hundred yards farther on 6 rather than 1 or 2(field 90)
Chris Whitt

CHRIS WHITT · Post by **CHRIS WHITT** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:23 pm

OOps screwed that one up

Huntin54 · Post by **Huntin54** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:02 pm

mike crabtree wrote:Huntin54, Do you really think we are stupid enuff to run with dead batteries, then wonder why it dont work?

LOL crabby u never know. Some people are pretty stupid then they blame it on the company.

Farwest · Post by **Farwest** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:51 pm

Huntin54 wrote:

LOL crabby u never know. Some people are pretty stupid then they blame it on the company.

mike crabtree · Post by **mike crabtree** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:03 pm

No doubt

Chief Long Hair · Post by **Chief Long Hair** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:28 pm

I'll say it again, get a series 1800 Dogtra. We currently own 3 sets for 5 years with no problems, (not even the batteries), and I don't know of anyone else who owns one that has had any problems either.

I'm sure I'm gonna get hammered here but we'll always use and strongly reccommend Dogtra to anyone. Beside the lack of problems and they do just about the same thing as a Tri-Tronics, Dogtra cost about $100 less than TT and TT even admits it in their new ads that the cost more! You guys are paying for the name any nothing else. Why buy a Lexus when a Kia does the same thing? They both get ya where you want to go so that leaves the name only to impress someone else or to make you feel good about yourself.

Let the bullets fly but you can't beat what I said. They both correct handling and running trash faults at a really good distance, PERIOD! Just like a Kia, that's all ya need.

NorWester · Post by **NorWester** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:13 pm

Chief Long Hair wrote:I'll say it again, get a series 1800 Dogtra. We currently own 3 sets for 5 years with no problems, (not even the batteries), and I don't know of anyone else who owns one that has had any problems either.

I'm sure I'm gonna get hammered here but we'll always use and strongly reccommend Dogtra to anyone. Beside the lack of problems and they do just about the same thing as a Tri-Tronics, Dogtra cost about $100 less than TT and TT even admits it in their new ads that the cost more! You guys are paying for the name any nothing else. Why buy a Lexus when a Kia does the same thing? They both get ya where you want to go so that leaves the name only to impress someone else or to make you feel good about yourself.

Let the bullets fly but you can't beat what I said. They both correct handling and running trash faults at a really good distance, PERIOD! Just like a Kia, that's all ya need.

I'll pipe in with my 2 cents here. I run a 4 dog 1800 and the performance of this product isnt exactly what you've experienced. It's into it's 3rd year and I've had it sent back to CA once for a receiver malfunction within the first year and at this point the unit appears about done. It has logged lots of hours in the pretty extreme temps but the range is about "kaput". Up here I've come to realize I really need a 2 mile range, not 1 mile which is the max for the 1800 series. Of course in thick deep woods you dont get near the advertised range. Right now my 1800 4 dog gets about 1/3 of a km which is even less than 1/3 of a mile.......line of sight. Thats not acceptable performance. It may need new batteries or reconditioning but either way I'm not impressed. As well as not having near the range of the Tritronics Trashbreaker, the 1800 has no tone feature. Dogtra also outfits their receivers with crappy collar straps....only half buckle. That cost me a receiver out somewhere in some heavy blow down and to get a replacement the whole unit has to make another trip to CA, and thats certainly a pain in the ass. I'm picking up a new unit and so far the G2 EXP Trashbreaker is where I'm leaning. I like the tone feature, I like the range and I like that to add or replace a receiver I just need to order one and not send the whole unit off to CA or China or wherever.

Big Daddy · Post by **Big Daddy** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:16 am

I agree with Chief Long Hair. As far as a tone feature I think they useless to me. If my dogs are doing something wrong I don't want them to have any warning that the shock is on the way. I may accidently hit the tone when I really need the shock button, such as if they start to run off game etc.

As far as the half buckle is concerned, it is a safety feature for the dog if it were to get hung up in something like a fence, or in your case a heavy blowdown, it would break away and release the dog so it would not strangle itself. We run a second collar along with the shock collar on our dogs and always tie them together with a carabiner clip, so if the half buckle were to break, we would still have our shock collars. I know this has personally happened to the Chief at least twice and he has never lost a collar.

As far as range of the Dogtra, Chief has verfied his set reaches all most a mile in southern Indiana which can be somewhat hilly.

I do like the analogy of a kia and a lexus, it all about how much your willing to pay for a name.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:51 pm

I'm sorry if this is off topic,but does anyone have problems with the tightness of the collars effecting the way a dog tounges on a track?
seems like if I tighten the collars like they are supposed to be the dogs kinda "moan" instead of their normal bawl.

Bernard Mulinex · Post by **Bernard Mulinex** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:33 pm

Scott I have read all these post and some have gave you some good information, the point about why would you ever! shock a dog on 6 to make it come to you, if you herd your dog yelp on 1 if you had it trained right it would have come to you when you turned it up on 6 you probably froze it in its tracks and when you let it up it probably ran like hell out of the county and maby under the first cat it came to sorry to be so blunt with you but you definitively need to learn to use your collar train your dog in an enclosure or your back yard.
You should just make it uncomfortable for your dog if it don't come to you and always call them and tone them before you shock them once you get them trained all you have to do is call and tone them if they don't come they need some more back yard training.
In my opinion that number 6 on them collars has ruined more dogs than it has helped it will take the hunt right out of them and make them shy as hell and if you are not lucky they will run and hide from you and once they learn they can run out range from you they are spoiled for life.
You can hash the diferent name collars to death if you want to but I have tried them all and I have had some problems with them all but I am using a tri-tronix 6 dog G2 now and it works fine. Sorry you lost a dog and I hope by being hard I might help.

Chief Long Hair · Post by **Chief Long Hair** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:43 pm

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO problem here Ryan. With my Dogtra, he/she squawls loud enough to wake up the dead when I hit'em!!! Seriously speaking though, not with my set. If you have to pull it that tight then I think you have other problems such as your dog having very thick hair. You may need longer probes.

NorWester, I agree with what Big Daddy said. The so called half buckle is a safety feature that can save a dog's life if hung up such as your heavy blowdowns. And just as he said, we use something like a small carabiner to tie the E-collar to our tracking or regular collar. I have yet to lose a collar this way. Try it no matter if you buy another Dogtra or something else. It will save you in the long run.

As far as not getting the range you needed, it sounds like you may have a problem due to your extreme usage of any E-collar set. The batteries may not be what they use to be or more likely they may not be making good contact inside the unit. I had this same problem but fiquired out what was causing it and fix it myself. Clean the inside carefully with an electronic board cleaning agent with a Q-tip and install a new "O" ring on the screw cap. I even use petroleum jelly on the threads and "O" ring to ensure waterproofing. Try that before throwing away your Dogtra set.

If not, buy that Lexus.

I'm now done with this post. If your mind hasn't been changed now, it never will. I've been happy with what I got and I ain't chang'in my mind.

Chief Long Hair · Post by **Chief Long Hair** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:14 pm

Guys, I'm sorry. I said I was done with this post but I've got to add this.

I have just viewed 5 pages of "Trading Post Equipment Only" area on this site and not one used Dogtra set for sale. There were many used TT for sale along with one Sport Dog though. Why's that I wonder?

Chief Long Hair · Post by **Chief Long Hair** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:15 pm

Guys, I'm sorry. I said I was done with this post but I've got to add this.

I have just viewed 5 pages of "Trading Post Equipment Only" area on this site and not one used Dogtra set for sale. There were many used TT for sale along with one Sport Dog though. Why's that I wonder?

NorWester · Post by **NorWester** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:19 pm

Ryan wrote:I'm sorry if this is off topic,but does anyone have problems with the tightness of the collars effecting the way a dog tounges on a track?
seems like if I tighten the collars like they are supposed to be the dogs kinda "moan" instead of their normal bawl.

It will definitely affect how they will tongue on track......some dogs react differently to a "choked down" collar. I've got a couple that need the collar only moderately snug or it will change the tone of their call.

NorWester · Post by **NorWester** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:29 pm

Chief Long Hair wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO problem here Ryan. With my Dogtra, he/she squawls loud enough to wake up the dead when I hit'em!!! Seriously speaking though, not with my set. If you have to pull it that tight then I think you have other problems such as your dog having very thick hair. You may need longer probes.

NorWester, I agree with what Big Daddy said. The so called half buckle is a safety feature that can save a dog's life if hung up such as your heavy blowdowns. And just as he said, we use something like a small carabiner to tie the E-collar to our tracking or regular collar. I have yet to lose a collar this way. Try it no matter if you buy another Dogtra or something else. It will save you in the long run.

As far as not getting the range you needed, it sounds like you may have a problem due to your extreme usage of any E-collar set. The batteries may not be what they use to be or more likely they may not be making good contact inside the unit. I had this same problem but fiquired out what was causing it and fix it myself. Clean the inside carefully with an electronic board cleaning agent with a Q-tip and install a new "O" ring on the screw cap. I even use petroleum jelly on the threads and "O" ring to ensure waterproofing. Try that before throwing away your Dogtra set.

If not, buy that Lexus.

I'm now done with this post. If your mind hasn't been changed now, it never will. I've been happy with what I got and I ain't chang'in my mind.

The batteries appear to hold their power long enough, under any conditions I might add, so maybe giving it a good cleaning is exactly what it needs, thanks for the tip. As to the buckle safety feature.......thats bullshit. It's just a cheap ass collar strap. I am wise to it at this point however and have taken measures to avoid another $200 dollar receiver/ collar lost in the woods.