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If they don't come back on their own ask Tri Tronics to help you out . Besides it's always better to assume they went to a hole . If you fool around the hole it will teach your dog to
stay there imo .
I've sen dad and my uncle dig a few ground hogs out in my time .
It's an awesome experience to see blood flying from a big bluetick
and him going right back in for more .
The end of the line is the end of the line whether at the gun or hole, rabbit or coon. Then again my beagles won't stay at the hole but I certaintly wouldn't be ashamed if they did.
Good question, never really thought about it. Guess it's another one of those personal preferences.
I wish my dogs would just come back and tell me what happened.....LOL.... I hunt UKC alot and I see alot of people who have dogs that do both. For instance one weekend you hunt with a hound who when the dogs break down and the track ends the handler always says "Yep it holed Sparky always comes back when he holes it" well then the next week you hunt with the same dog and they break down and this time you see a hole in the area and the same handler says "Yep Sparky always marks the hole".
I just assume that my dogs lose 85% of the tracks they run....
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Dogs learn the trial rules too!
Saw one that runs in a format that when it lost the rabbit trail in water, went to the dirt bank and started digging. Had to have a hole before we got there.
Seldom run one in ground here, but occasionally in trees in water. Some dogs will stay since when they put their nose in the tree hole the rabbit is usually almost within reach and they can see and smell it real good. Is easily twisted out, but doing that will get them staying for sure.
Don't want one to stay as its too risky to go out and get it. Water 2 feet or 20 feet deep?
I remember seeing one time in an AKC trial a judge ordered a dog up for staying at the hole. Don't know that it is in the rule book but that judge decided it was a bad enough "fault" to order the dog up.
I agree with you guys........Just one of mine in the picture I posted like's to do a little digging and barking but she doesn't stay very long. Maybe a minute or so then she walks away. I do however like the fact that she does that......I think it shows she really want's that rabbit. HUNT
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I want the dog to work a hole like a check.
Just make sure the rabbit didn't dive through a short hole with an exit.
If they can't find it, keep looking until they find another rabbit to run.
I don't want my dogs digging, marking, or hanging around a hole.
Sometimes they do dig if they can see, hear, or smell the rabbit in the hole. Most of the time they check the hole and start working it like a normal check.
To each his own, but I prefer mine not to stay at the hole. I've run dogs enough in my area to have a pretty good mental map of where the holes are located and don't like having to stumble through all the deadfalls and briar patches leading a dog away from one.
I can remember an ol'grade dog my dad had that went missing for a week that we were unable to find anywhere. Luckily, some neighbors fishing at a pond down the road from us happened to hear him barking and dug him out of an old groundhog hole he was stuck in and brought him home. He was always one that if he could get his head started in a hole he would stay and dig. That was back before I discovered Tri-Tronics.
I have only had 3 that would stay till you got there but I can only remember treeing 1 rabbit during the summer, maybe because the scenting is normally tougher this time of year. It can be aggrevating but I personally would never knowingly shock any of my dogs off of rabbit scent. JMO
SilverZuk wrote:I want the dog to work a hole like a check.
Just make sure the rabbit didn't dive through a short hole with an exit.
If they can't find it, keep looking until they find another rabbit to run.
I don't want my dogs digging, marking, or hanging around a hole.
Sometimes they do dig if they can see, hear, or smell the rabbit in the hole. Most of the time they check the hole and start working it like a normal check.
GOOD POST,THAT IS VERY TRUE,I HAVE SEEN RABBITS DO IT.
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Hey thanks guys, I just needed some insight. I prefer mine to come back too! I use to think it was good to see a dog dig in a hole. It wasn't until I had one get wedged in a hole and I had to help him out that I didn't want that anymore. lol
i hate for a dog to dig and stay at a hole. If they will bay it's not too bad, but if they are silent and dig they can be lost for hours. I almost lost a bitch last winter. she dug under a pile of electric poles and got wedged. The problem is most beagles won't bay and you can't find them at the hole.
If I had a dog that stayed at a hole today he would probably be staying at someone else's home tonight. I lost a dog in a hole for about a week back in the 60's. A bird hunter found him and brought him to me. If the rabbit goes in a hole it's time to be looking for another.