info on the branko bloodline!!!

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Post by sanfordssj »

Like i mentioned before. Every dog in that pedigree speaks for its self except the females, dam, that dam, and that dam? I would be looking at those!!!
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LIKE THE GUY SAID EARLIER,THEY BREED THEIR DOGS UP THERE TO MAKE A CERTISN STYLE OF DOG.FREIDA OR BRANKO WILL BE THE FIRST TO TELL YOU THAT THEY DON'T BREED PAPER TO PAPER THEY BREED DOG TO DOG,STYLE TO STYLE,TO GET WHAT THEY WANT.HINT:IF YOU BUY FROM THEM,BUY A YOUNG DOG THAT HAS NOT RAN A LOT OF HARE,I HAVE SEEN THAT THE DOGS STARTED ON HARE SOMETIMES HAVE A HARD TIME TRANSISIONING TO COTONTAILS.AS FAR AS HOW GOOD THEY ARE,THEY ALL ARE DIFFERENT,BUT LOOK AT MOST TOP NOTCH DOGS OUT HERE,90%OF THE TIME,THEY GO BACK TO BRANKO BREEDING.ALL OF MY DOGS ARE EITHER PURE BRANKO OR GO BACK TO BRANKO,I HAVE HAD GOOD AND BAD.LOOK FOR JACK OF ALL TRADES AND HELI PROP IF THEY ARE CLOSE,YOU SHAOULD HAVE A GOOD HOUND. :lol:

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Post by reneeford »

a forward-searching hound at the point of loss...that's kinda funny. not the same as running over the end of the line. :D

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Post by sav »

I'm new to this game but it's not the same to me. Over running the line possibly created the loss, from there they can search in whatever direction they like, mine don't search forward they circle the area but some may.

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Post by back40 »

I meant that the one's I've seen have a tendency to overrun but then not come directly back to the point of loss when they start searching. They usually reach out first.
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Post by ANTHONY KERR »

I have some of what I call forward searching hounds. They shut up when they no longer smell the track and circle out from the point of loss. They will return but only after exhausting forward efforts to work a double. I also have dogs that stay closer and usually get the double back checks. I learned more about the styles by running two or three at a time rather than five or six. The best braces of the summer were with one forward checker and one close checker.
In my case one of my best close checkers is mostly Branko x Ace in the Hole. His seven generation pedigree looks like the hall of fame of beagles you name it he has got it in him. He is not the best searcher until the rabbit is up, and he has been tough to break from off game. He is a deadly check dog and runs a better line than most of my other breeds. When he gets a check he keeps it a while. The off game races he went on were the way a dog should run a deer, without checks and pounding. I do not know if he represents either line well as he is my only one. I think I have the off game under control and his ability as a check and drive dog has at least prepaid a few more months rent for him.
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Gentleman, you cannot argue the success of the Branko line. Remember they are Hare Hounds and they have hare hound traits. The idea I just heard about not buying a pup started on hare is probably very sound. A blind dog can run a hare, maybe not as good as some, but they have a lot more scent than cottontail and they do not pull as many tricks.

The best pack I saw put together was by Mark Ross, it was watching his hounds run that I got the idea of what I wanted my pack to look like. A uniform pack, each dog contributing something, running heads up and you could throw a blanket over all 5. All of Marks hounds are Branko, old Branko. He still breeds Branko's Hard Rock (frozen semen) into his line. These hounds can run the hide off a cottontail.

Let me now preface this so you do not think, Oh another Branko Kennel Owner. I do not have a drop of Branko blood in my kennel. But I know what I have seen, of these hounds and they can be some of the best. I do not think the recent stuff is as good as the old stuff, but the old stuff is pure gold.

I am linebreeding Blueback blood, but the time is coming for an outcross, some hybridization, I am choosing to breed Dutch to a Daughter of HARD ROCK. I really think that you need to find a line you like, that suits you, line breed best to best, then when the time comes to outcross find the very best line you can and outcross. I still beleive that the Old Branko Blood is some of the very best out there. I am very hopefull that this hybridization will workout.

My last word is this, look to the very BEST hound of a line, to judge a line. Judge the progeny of THAT hound. This is truly a fair way to judge a line. How many hounds several generations past the Branko Kennel still have the Branko name. Is that fair. Look at the best a line has to give, seek it out, and see if it produces the same. Plain and simple.

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Post by Beagle Huntsman »

I wish some of you guys had been field trialing in the 80s before the Branko hounds came along. Then you would know what "pure gold" is. I'm not a fan of the rush and check, and then loss, type of hound. Some call them "Russian Czech". A GOOD fast hound has few checks.

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Post by Larry G »

Duke wrote:
The best pack I saw put together was by Mark Ross, it was watching his hounds run that I got the idea of what I wanted my pack to look like. A uniform pack, each dog contributing something, running heads up and you could throw a blanket over all 5. All of Marks hounds are Branko, old Branko. He still breeds Branko's Hard Rock (frozen semen) into his line. These hounds can run the hide off a cottontail.

Any of them winning or placing in AKC SPO trials anywhere?

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Re: info on the branko bloodline!!!

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jon cornett wrote:would like some info on the branko bloodline, good and bad. i just got a female thats 3/4 branko bred and would like to know what others who have branko dogs like about them or dislike. any info appreciated. jon c.

For what its worth, I am happy with the Branko hounds I have. I particularly prefer hounds out of Heli Prop or that go directly back to him. From what I've seen of others Prop bred hounds, and from what I have, they have HUNT, brains, speed w/ line control, conformation and are just good all around gun dogs. They hunt with you and for you, not for themselves. Now, I know this won't apply to all of their hounds, but the majority of what I've seen out of the older Branko lines are healthy, hardy robust hounds and excellent producers. Unbeliveable snow hounds, at least the ones out of Prop :D
I'd like to get more Branko breeding in my breeding program and am considering using Warlock or Midnight Echo in the near future.

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Post by Beagled1 »

sanfordssj wrote:I have several Branko breed dogs that have been exceptional dogs, but on the flip i have seen one or two that people gave up on to early. Don't give up on a dog unitl they are at least 2 years old!!!
Definitely! I think this is where Branko may be getting some of the bad reputation from ... many of their hounds are SLOW starters. I believe Jack of All Trades was well over a year old when he started, and look just WHAT he started :bigsmile: My best Branko bitch did not start until she was 9-10 months old. I'd almost given up on her ..... now, her pups did not show much promise until recently, @ 10-11 months of age, but already, at 13 months, they are hunting like seasoned pros!

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Post by Shady Grove Beagles »

Guys around here all refer to my dogs as " Branko hounds". They all have alot of Branko dogs behind them as I line breed on IFC Maravic's Blue Ninja and FC Branko's Jack of all Trades. But I have never bought a pup from the Krpans or bred to one of their studs so who's to say my hounds are actually " Branko"?
Most of my dogs are crosses that I've made or crosses friends have made using similar line bred hounds going back to Jack,Ninja and Turbo Prop through Heli-Prop.
Do I like the results I get from dogs bred this way? OH YEH !!!!!!!!
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Larry G, Mark Ross has finished quite a few dogs in Mid-West SPO, and if you go to a trial and he is there, you better have your A game ready. His dogs are tough to beat, and if he's not placing them (which he usually does) he's right in the thick of it at the end. I have seen his hounds at trials, and also have ran with him in the wild, running, and gunning as well. He does now how to put a nice pack together!

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Post by Larry G »

That's good to know. Heard a lot of complaining from some of the local guys (NC) getting blown off the map by fast dogs when they went to the nationals. They say when you get there line control means nothing. I think they are trying to speed up some, and a bit of hare hound might work. But, I never see it in the peds of the SPO dogs, just Nip, Pro, Diamond II, Stubby and all you know. Sometimes to run a rabbit not much bigger than a rat and full of tricks it takes a low gear kind of dog or at least one that has a low gear, pretty boring stuff to me but that's trialing.

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I like that Tim,its witty and well put.Well hunting season will be opening soon and thats exciting for those of us who still like to use our hounds for HUNTING RABBITS!and not sit on the tail gate and listen to them run one rabbit for an hour or two and complain that their hounds are not better jump dogs.I look forward to getting with you to hunt-run and checking out Bruiser&Chaplain. Vic

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