Brankos Beagles

Waccamaw Beagler · Post by **Waccamaw Beagler** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:22 am

If you're makin the crosses that Branko continues to make I don't think you're a puppy mill. Puppy mills put out crap pups that aren't worth the money. If he was a puppy mill he'd be breeding anything and everything.

coyote hunter · Post by **coyote hunter** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:32 am

don't worry he has breed nothing to nothing it called surpply and demand.I know for fact he has breed stuff that should have been culled and he will call it great to sell you a puppy FACT that is bussiness right.So yes he does breed crap on times.

JIMMIE ABSHIRE · Post by **JIMMIE ABSHIRE** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:35 am

Coyote hunter what line of hound do you suggest? Also these down south hounds of brankos are all over the country not just down here . I do agree with you on one point he puts out big numbers of pups , so its not just love it is about money $. I always thought after there fire at there home when they lost some of the base stock , that had to set them back tremendously. I have also noticed he is starting to out cross to some select males again . Can he be as strong as before ? Dont know . But what i do know is that I cant find myself hating on people or there accomplishments. If it was not him it would of been someone else . So i say live and let live .

sav · Post by **sav** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:51 am

Dan why is it that you never turn down an oppurtunity to bash the Krpans?

I don't think you know anymore about them than what you read on their site or from trail standings. Let me help you from putting your foot in your mouth again, Branko had serious health issues a few years back that don't allow him to trail anymore, period. And if you had ever been there you would see that it is a top quality kennel, run by a family that care for every pup like it's the only one they have, I've seen it I've been there many times. Frieda is like a walking hard drive, she knows every dog they ever had and can tell you all about them. If you had ever spent any time in the woods with Branko you would know without question that he is a rabid beagle fanatic, and throwing unfounded insults at a man this involved with the good of the beagling community in general is a huge injustice. With guys like you floating around I can't see why in the world Branko would ever attend another trial, just to have to answer questions from guys like you. The entire Krpan family are counted as my friends and they are the nicest down to earth people you will ever meet, and have started me on my beagling journey with all the help and advice I asked for, not many people could have done better.

coyote hunter · Post by **coyote hunter** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:09 am

You pretty much sumed it up Jamie,will put .I just think people should understand because a hound is for sale for 1200$$ don't make it a good hound it makes a good bank account

not saying some are not good .I to also think he puts more puppies on the ground since the fire than before.Got to love that $$$$$.$$$ is always the way to better the breed right??I am in no way saying he hasn't produced some great hounds he has but what would be the good to bad ratio???bet you won't here about that stuff!!!just how good them hounds of his are( that is coming from them of course ).I could tell of situations or two I know of but won't on here.Don't think I hate the branko kennel or blood I don't ,I just think he takes advantage of alot of beaglers that don't know the difference thats all,and thats the part I hate its all about $$$$$$$ not the hounds.How many young people starting in the beagle world with no money have you heard of having a puppy given to them by the branko kennel????giving a puppy to a young beagler is helping and bettering the breed,I bet you know of lots of other small name guys that helped a new comer get started it wasn't about the $$$ was it and thats the way it should be not B$$$ko.Dan

coyote hunter · Post by **coyote hunter** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:11 am

So sav ,what part of the south are you from??

P.S. health problems are understandable for sure but there never seems to be a problem driving way south to sell a trailer full of hounds and pups

Dan

sav · Post by **sav** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:22 am

Dan,

If you mean Southern Manitoba I'm from the Winnipeg area, don't see what difference that makes. I'm not sure of this but I don't think either Branko or Frieda drive anywhere to sell their pups, people come to them or they are shipped. I think if you where honest with yourself you are just jealous that Branko gets to make his living doing what he loves, I know I am. But we don't need to attack the man every chance we get over it.

So are you saying that you would sell your pups for less than they are worth just to be a nice guy? If the market will bear the price then the market is obvioulsy there for Branko dogs. I think if you ever meet the man you're opinion will change. I for one would like to hear these horror stories you keep talking about, so how bout one. Don't hold back now you've already called him a money hungry puppy mill owner with no care for beagling in general.

Incahoots · Post by **Incahoots** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:29 am

I doubt any person will ever accomplish what he has in the beagling world. It's easier to be a critic then to beat his accomplishments in so many formats by far. In doing so he created a blood line that has had a very good trait passing ability.

I guess these days it's easier to buy a good dog and slap your kennel name on it to take credit.

I suspect it takes someone who has put alot of work into a breeding program to respect Branko's accomplishments.

beerdrinking bob · Post by **beerdrinking bob** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:37 am

sav that was well said. ive never had the pleasure to make it to canada but ive always wanted to check out their kennels. i know guys that have bought pups from branko and wasnt satisfied with them. this could be their fault for throwing a young pup on the ground with 10 dogs. who knows? my biggest thing is money with the krpans i dont have enough of it.their are plenty of good dogs in the area that are alot cheaper and some are even branko bred.

Beagled1 · Post by **Beagled1** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:43 am

My best hound is Branko bred. Her dam was purchased from the Krpans as a pup. She was a late starter (9 mos) but she was running like a 3 year old before seh was 12 months. She has an uncanny rabbit sense and is LIGHTNING speed. I'd never known the true meaning of fast until I hunted with her

Not only that, but she is easy to handle and has very tight line control. She will hunt anything you ask her to. I hunt mainly hare but took her on a deer hunt several times. She passes her good conformation and lots of hunt into the pups, and honestly, I don't know how much more I could ask for.

sav · Post by **sav** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:50 am

Bob wrote: i know guys that have bought pups from branko and wasnt satisfied with them. this could be their fault for throwing a young pup on the ground with 10 dogs.

Well said, I don't think enough people take the credit or blame for how well their dog turns out, it's easier to blame the line. I know one thing for sure, I have more than enough ability to ruin any good pup anyone wants to send me. But only time will tell if I can turn a good pup into a great dog, and if I do I'll tip my hat to the line and myself.

hammerenpatch · Post by **hammerenpatch** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:59 am

It makes me wonder why there are so many Branko breed hounds out
there for sale I see them everywhere pups and running hounds. Are they that good or are people just jumping on the Branko name wagon and selling pups and running hounds to make a $. With Branko or with any line I have seen some good ones and seen some that aren't worth feeding. And know guys
that have had Branko hounds and will not have any more of them they got rid of every thing they had and went with somthing else. I also know guys that have the Branko line and won't have anything else.
I'm not bashing anyone just my opinion of what I have personally seen.
Mike

JIMMIE ABSHIRE · Post by **JIMMIE ABSHIRE** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:01 am

I drive chevy you drive ford . Chicken egg therory .

TomMN · Post by **TomMN** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:47 am

I never understand why people always bash someone for trying to make money. Ever try to get by without it? I'm pretty sure no one ever got rich raising beagles. I would be willing to bet that the Krpan's could have made a lot more and worked a lot less working at a regular job than they ever will by raising beagles.

Almost every beagle breeder over the last hundred years that made a positive impact on the beagle breed raised large numbers of dogs.

"Those who breed only a few hounds, may by chance have a good pack, while those who breed a great many (if, at the same time, they understand the business) reduce it to a certainty." - from the book Thoughts on Hunting by Peter Beckford.

There are only two ways to breed large numbers of dogs, you either have to make some money doing it or you have to have a large trust fund to draw on.

The Branko dogs I have seen are not the type I like to hunt, but nobody can deny that they have been more sucessful in breeding winning field trial beagles than anyone in recent history.

straight&narrow · Post by **straight&narrow** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:51 am

Coyote Hunter- If its so easy to produce what Branko has without any faulty dogs lets see your work??? I'm not trying to be an ass here but come on... I have been in beagling since I could barely walk and I have never bred as many quality hounds as they have. When you have the demand they have for pups and dogs you breed for your demand in doing so they probably get some culls I would imagine. I didn't get on here and say you must buy branko because there the best did I? I said if it were me I would look around your area first especially buying a started dog, but to come on here and down grade the facts of what has been accomplished is crazy...