Day by Day Raising and Training
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windy hollow
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I've been running these pups some on hare. I would rather train them on cottontails but I haven't had much luck finding one for them to run.
The big female Bossy has been running very well with the old dogs. I ran her once alone and she went hunting and jumped and ran a couple different rabbits by herself. She hunts good, runs about medium fast although I think her speed will pick up as she gets older, and has a good exciting chop squall chop bawl chop voice. I have had to shock her on deer a couple times but she doesn't show any interest in them now.
I kept two males, Rocky and Hornet. Rocky has been a little slower starting and isn't really running yet although he does go along with the other dogs. Hornet is doing very well. I have run him once alone on cottontails and two or three times on hare with the other dogs. He caught one rabbit in the pen and now when I take him out you can tell he is thinking on how to catch another one.
The two other females are Katrina and Naughtia (Lisa named that one). Katrina has been run a little and I saw her get off and work a track by herself. So far she just yips on track but she has one of the best voices in the kennel. Naughtia hasn't been run much yet.
My buddy Pete has a big pretty male from this litter named John. Pete said he put John on a rabbit track the other day and he ran it for a long ways before he lost it and came back.
Every time I take these pups out I put a shocking collar on them. After they are used to wearing it I will put them in a situation where I know they will not come to me when I call, but I can still get them if I have to. Then I call them several times and push the tone button on the collar. When they don't come I shock them on the lowest setting, 1. If that doesn't get their attention I shock them on 2, then 3. When they stop what they are doing I call them and try to get them to come to me. If they don't I will go get them. When I have them back I give them lots of praise and attention. I repeat this process two or three times. I only use the lowest setting on the collar, then work my way up as needed. After the first couple times 1 is plenty high enough to get their attention.
Once they have been trained this way I take them hunting and when I am ready to quit I will call them and beep them with the tone button. If they don't start coming in I bump them as much as I have to. After they have been trained this way I can call them by voice, or with the tone button if they are a long ways out and they will come looking for me every time. When they find me they are always happy to see me.
It's called avoidance training because they learn to avoid punishment by coming when called. Most dogs are very pleased with themselves when they learn this and are happy to obey.
The big female Bossy has been running very well with the old dogs. I ran her once alone and she went hunting and jumped and ran a couple different rabbits by herself. She hunts good, runs about medium fast although I think her speed will pick up as she gets older, and has a good exciting chop squall chop bawl chop voice. I have had to shock her on deer a couple times but she doesn't show any interest in them now.
I kept two males, Rocky and Hornet. Rocky has been a little slower starting and isn't really running yet although he does go along with the other dogs. Hornet is doing very well. I have run him once alone on cottontails and two or three times on hare with the other dogs. He caught one rabbit in the pen and now when I take him out you can tell he is thinking on how to catch another one.
The two other females are Katrina and Naughtia (Lisa named that one). Katrina has been run a little and I saw her get off and work a track by herself. So far she just yips on track but she has one of the best voices in the kennel. Naughtia hasn't been run much yet.
My buddy Pete has a big pretty male from this litter named John. Pete said he put John on a rabbit track the other day and he ran it for a long ways before he lost it and came back.
Every time I take these pups out I put a shocking collar on them. After they are used to wearing it I will put them in a situation where I know they will not come to me when I call, but I can still get them if I have to. Then I call them several times and push the tone button on the collar. When they don't come I shock them on the lowest setting, 1. If that doesn't get their attention I shock them on 2, then 3. When they stop what they are doing I call them and try to get them to come to me. If they don't I will go get them. When I have them back I give them lots of praise and attention. I repeat this process two or three times. I only use the lowest setting on the collar, then work my way up as needed. After the first couple times 1 is plenty high enough to get their attention.
Once they have been trained this way I take them hunting and when I am ready to quit I will call them and beep them with the tone button. If they don't start coming in I bump them as much as I have to. After they have been trained this way I can call them by voice, or with the tone button if they are a long ways out and they will come looking for me every time. When they find me they are always happy to see me.
It's called avoidance training because they learn to avoid punishment by coming when called. Most dogs are very pleased with themselves when they learn this and are happy to obey.
Time for an update on these pups. One of the females, Naughtia developed an underbite. I noticed when she was younger but I was hoping it would get better as she got older. Instead it got worse. She would still make a good rabbit dog but we would never breed her. It was time for her to go. We found her a realy good home as a pet. The people that have her now realy like her and she will be spayed.
That leaves me with four, the two males Hornet and Rocky, and two females, Bossy and Katrina. I have been hunting Hornet and Bossy some and they are both doing realy well. They can both jump their own rabbits and run them with out help. They are showing good speed along with very good line control. I have had to shock them both on deer, I think I have them straightened out but I don't trust them yet. Altogether, I realy like both of them.
Katrina hasn't been hunted as much as the other two. She is started and will work a track. So far, she doesn't open real good yet, just kind of yips. She has one of the best voices of the bunch when they are in the kennel so I think it will come out in the field sooner or later.
I haven't been pushing Rocky much yet. He is a little slower starting and likes to open on the other dogs some so I want to start him by himself. I won't run him with a bunch of dogs until he is running well by himself. His mother, Rose was a late starter also so I'm not too worried about him. If he turns out to be as good as Rose I will be very happy.
All of my dogs will lead but sometimes, when I have a bunch of dogs out or when I am a long ways back in the brush, I want my dogs to follow me without a lead. I started teaching these pups to follow me when they were little. Anytime I was out with them and they were following me I always told them to "c'mon". Since then they have heard me say c'mon about 5000 times. They know that it means I want them to come with me. As they got older I started taking them for walks wearing the schock collar. I take them, three at a time in an open field where there are no distractions and tell them to c'mon. If they take off for the woods I bump them lightly with the schock collar and tell them to c'mon. It doesn't take them long to figure it out. Now I can take them anywhere without a lead and they will follow me UNLESS they cross a hot rabbit track. I won't try to stop them from that just yet.
C'mon C'mon
That leaves me with four, the two males Hornet and Rocky, and two females, Bossy and Katrina. I have been hunting Hornet and Bossy some and they are both doing realy well. They can both jump their own rabbits and run them with out help. They are showing good speed along with very good line control. I have had to shock them both on deer, I think I have them straightened out but I don't trust them yet. Altogether, I realy like both of them.
Katrina hasn't been hunted as much as the other two. She is started and will work a track. So far, she doesn't open real good yet, just kind of yips. She has one of the best voices of the bunch when they are in the kennel so I think it will come out in the field sooner or later.
I haven't been pushing Rocky much yet. He is a little slower starting and likes to open on the other dogs some so I want to start him by himself. I won't run him with a bunch of dogs until he is running well by himself. His mother, Rose was a late starter also so I'm not too worried about him. If he turns out to be as good as Rose I will be very happy.
All of my dogs will lead but sometimes, when I have a bunch of dogs out or when I am a long ways back in the brush, I want my dogs to follow me without a lead. I started teaching these pups to follow me when they were little. Anytime I was out with them and they were following me I always told them to "c'mon". Since then they have heard me say c'mon about 5000 times. They know that it means I want them to come with me. As they got older I started taking them for walks wearing the schock collar. I take them, three at a time in an open field where there are no distractions and tell them to c'mon. If they take off for the woods I bump them lightly with the schock collar and tell them to c'mon. It doesn't take them long to figure it out. Now I can take them anywhere without a lead and they will follow me UNLESS they cross a hot rabbit track. I won't try to stop them from that just yet.
C'mon C'mon