what is boogie bloodline?

hunter 101 · Post by **hunter 101** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:29 pm

anybody heard of this bloodline out of tennessee?

brian s · Post by **brian s** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:22 pm

i have heard of this but cant place where

buckridge · Post by **buckridge** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:51 pm

yes, its an old bloodline, I had a female out of that line years ago.

Med-speed and close on the line, if I remember right.

Mid-late ninties I believe.

db215 · Post by **db215** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:42 pm

hunter101,
I think you may be talking about an old champion named FC Wilcliffe Boogie that was bred to for several years because he was slow and very close on the line. I think the pearson creek line can be traced back to this dog. I believe he was very famous in the 60's and was stud out to a bunch, I'm sure several dogs today have this background in their pedigree. I believe George Nixon took his bitches and breed to Boogie and then slowed them down more to walkie-talkie type. Boogie was owned and championed out by Jack Wilson from NY?? I was told by my wife's grandfather that ran walkie-talkie style dogs that this bloodline was the Branko of the 60's and 70's. 30 to 50 different studs were being used out of this line at one time. That may be where the so-called "Boogie blood" come in. Hope this helps. dboman

Beagle Huntsman · Post by **Beagle Huntsman** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:15 pm

Jack Wilson was from Michigan. FC. Wilcliffe Boogie came along in the 1950s and "sped up" the trend toward a do-nothing brace dog. The Pearson Creeks were heavy in this bloodline. Boogie himself, and his son FC. Wilcliffe Bannister, were heavily inbred, and produced well for the brace breeders. I would not want a lot of Boogie in my hounds if I had a choice today.

gus · Post by **gus** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:55 pm

You guys are correct about Wilcliffe Boogie being in the pedigrees of the Pearson Creek traditional brace beagles. Interestingly, Boogie can be also be found back in the pedigrees of many of the Hare bred hounds. I believe some of the Branko dogs can be traced back to Boogie. Just goes to show how silly it is to base your bloodline on a particular strain that was around fifty or sixty years ago. Their hunt and style all depends on what the breeders were looking for since Ole Boogie was around. Some wanted his nose and line control others wanted his nose and added some speed.

WrongsideRandy · Post by **WrongsideRandy** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:03 pm

Maybe you are talking about Boogy Holler, but isnt that Weircreek blood???

Take care,
Randy

jogletree · Post by **jogletree** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:10 pm

I think you may be referring to Boggy Holler. Could be wrong though.

hunter 101 · Post by **hunter 101** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:46 pm

seem like the pedigree went from boogie to boggy not sure i heard they are extremely fast hounds?

Boomerx · Post by **Boomerx** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:16 am

It is FC Wilcliffe Boogie for sure, owned by Jack Wilson, and he is the basis of the Pearson Creek's and behind (way back) many of our LPH (and most other formats) hounds. However, Boogie was not a slow hound. He was run and hunted on fox a lot of the time. Beagle breeders took the slowest of his get (which they wrongly percieved to be the best) and bred and inbred them till they got what they wanted (walkie-talkies). It's the same thing Beagle breeders are doing when they breed for speed alone, and this will also cause the ruination of the hunting beagle.